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   iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Thursday, 29-Jan-2026 11:58:31 JST iced depresso
   something i've been noticing is the older nostr relays were very open (strfry.) then the engineering work was on scaling the synchronization of events.
   
   the current generation (pyramid, chorus) are more "closed." chorus is based on an old mutual RSS or twtxt model of just dropping your messages in an outbox and waiting for someone to come get it. pyramid is based on friend-of-friend models like the old what.cd.
   
   seems one cannot escape the march to closed societies.
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Thursday, 29-Jan-2026 12:04:54 JST iced depresso

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     • Koi (I'm done moving I swear!)
     @koimoa they say its to keep the spam out. though maybe i haven't looked too hard.
     
     of the few things i saw it was like right wing grognards and shitcoin enthusiasts and its like ehhh
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     Koi (I'm done moving I swear!) (koimoa@nishikigoi.space)'s status on Thursday, 29-Jan-2026 12:04:55 JST Koi (I'm done moving I swear!)

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     @icedquinn or seems like they want to make money off it, since it seems like the "good" ones are paid relays

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Thursday, 29-Jan-2026 12:21:45 JST iced depresso

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     • Koi (I'm done moving I swear!)
     @radmin @koimoa i think they did but then got gleasoned in to being a buttcoin platform somehow.
     
     in theory nostr guards you against the mastodon style ideology gestapo but in practice that particular form of meta-censorship endures. it does mean one outpost can kick you and yu take your identity elsewhere, but it doesn't stop federated blacklisting campaigns.
     
     but yeah chorus is built for people running their own on a vps, and pyramid is built for running an invite-web on a vps, so the tech is there, its just the general town square that you have to struggle bus access to
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     Poppy (Back from tha dead) :neofox_flag_trans: (radmin@limepeeps.perchinup.top)'s status on Thursday, 29-Jan-2026 12:21:46 JST Poppy (Back from tha dead) :neofox_flag_trans:

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     • Koi (I'm done moving I swear!)

     @koimoa@nishikigoi.space @icedquinn@blob.cat the "good" ones are paid relaysHuh, weird that Nostr, a much smaller protocol than Fedi, is more commercialized than Fedi. Almost all Fedi instances are either fully free to join or just require the mods inviting you, and they mostly rely on donations from its users to cover costs (they can even be paid for out-of-pocket, even). I expected Nostr to have a similar culture of open decentralization like Fedi. :neofox_think:

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Thursday, 29-Jan-2026 13:19:04 JST iced depresso

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     • Koi (I'm done moving I swear!)
     @japananon @radmin @koimoa i'd set up a pyramid instance as a shitpost, but idk how many people would actually want to use this. i don't pull a large enough community to make lasting shitpost spheres :blobcatgoogly:
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     チャノさん (japananon@mitra.anon-kenkai.com)'s status on Thursday, 29-Jan-2026 13:19:06 JST チャノさん

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     • Koi (I'm done moving I swear!)

     @koimoa @icedquinn @radmin
     >my problem with platforms built on that is that they never shut the fuck up about it and it drowns out/scares everyone else away

     That was my experience. I thought Nostr would be fun, I wanted to like it, but the only conversations I ever see is people talking about Nostr itself, or Bitcoin, and nothing else. I didn't feel like anybody was really having real conversations or even just having any fun there.

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     Koi (I'm done moving I swear!) (koimoa@nishikigoi.space)'s status on Thursday, 29-Jan-2026 13:19:07 JST Koi (I'm done moving I swear!)

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     @icedquinn @radmin should add that nostr was made with "Web3" in mind so any incentive to monetize was there from the jump with nft and shill coins in mind

     See, my problem with platforms built on that is that they never shut the fuck up about it and it drowns out/scares everyone else away, even if it's designed well