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Ash Kvetchum (ash_kvetchum@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 01-Jan-2026 12:19:21 JST
Ash Kvetchum
The intent of God for the world and your place in it is not to
>See if you're a good person because good people ('good' meaning repentant here) get to go live with me somewhere else with all the other good people who believed me
That is the selling message of churchianity.
The intent of God--if the words of his prophets and the other apostles are true and if their recordings are unchanged--is to
>Show you, whom I've chosen--regardless of whether you're faithful to what I've set for you or not and regardless of whether I am believed by you or not-- that I AM. I am the only eternal; I alone am faithful continuously; I am first and last. I will save you despite yourselves, from yourselves and from our enemies. You are of me (yet are not me). There are those who are not. You are more than those around you but just as base if you join them. I am giving you essentially monopoly money so that you may see yourselves. You are fools and will suffer them rather than be faithful (to yourselves, which is to be faithful to me), if I am not explicitly beside you. I will prove yourselves to you by your own actions--even up to the point of your whole destruction. I will save you and end them-- even then, as you failed to do. You will see. Yet I will give you something more.-
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Ash Kvetchum (ash_kvetchum@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 01-Jan-2026 12:19:15 JST
Ash Kvetchum
The Middle East was White, man. (And now Anatolia is Turkey, for example.)
Similar to how Detroit is now a concrete nigger jungle. London is Pakistani. So on, so on.
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Ash Kvetchum (ash_kvetchum@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 01-Jan-2026 12:19:15 JST
Ash Kvetchum
>Sumerian
Throwing a fun gee whiz:
Today they say the Sumerian language is an isolate language, unrelated to any after.
Funnily enough, the timing of its fall aligns around the time of the tower of Babel, if you go by the older Septuagint timeframe (different than what the 6th century jewish sect of Masoretes "helped" Christians to have by their Masoretic Text, the current basis of all OT translations).BowserNoodle ☦️ likes this. -
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Nudhul (nudhul@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 01-Jan-2026 12:19:16 JST
Nudhul
@Xenophon @Ash_Kvetchum @nine2fivestudio didnt he live in iraq or something? wherever the sumerian empire was? -
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Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 01-Jan-2026 12:19:17 JST
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I mean that i dont think niggers come from Noah like I do. -
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Nudhul (nudhul@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 01-Jan-2026 12:19:17 JST
Nudhul
@Xenophon @Ash_Kvetchum @nine2fivestudio im pretty sure i dont have any lineage from the levant -
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Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 01-Jan-2026 12:19:17 JST
Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits
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Nudhul (nudhul@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 01-Jan-2026 12:19:18 JST
Nudhul
@Xenophon @Ash_Kvetchum @nine2fivestudio what do you mean when you say someone is of satan -
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Ash Kvetchum (ash_kvetchum@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 01-Jan-2026 12:19:19 JST
Ash Kvetchum
😆 I get that
We're his image in that our spirit is of his.
Nothing to do with our bodies or cognitive abilities. (Anything more specific than that and I'd be speculating. There are things no one has seen. His "Spirit" could be "his intention" and/or could be some actual quality beyond current grasp. Either way 🤷 God is "Spirit" and we do not know about that aspect of existence.)
Our being in his image is not "human bodies were made in the same shape as God" nor "humans were made with the ability to reason." It's that the line of Adam (scripture starts listing nations, and they share an ethnicity), the one to whom God breathed his Spirit, have inherited a spirit of God.
That's what Christ is talking about when he says one must be born of above (not "born again", which is not in any Greek manuscript).
One must be born of the water (meaning descended from Adam by the flesh) and of the Spirit (meaning an inheritor according to the covenants, the Spirit, God's Word, given to that line; and--who knows?--possibly meaning having some quality (an actual spirit we don't have the ability to see). What is flesh is flesh, what is Spirit is Spirit (meaning that being a descendant of the line is not enough ("what is water is water")--one must be be a continuation ("what is Spirit is Spirit")).
A river is a line of water. Another river crossing and feeding into the first river downstream forms something that is no longer that first river. Being of the first river is one thing (the third river is of the first), but being of the first river alone--which is the same as being the first river--is another thing.
This is why Christ tells the Pharisees they are not his sheep. They perhaps were descendants of Abraham, but they were definitely of the Edomites (who in turn were of Adam, but only in part). They were born of the water, but not the Spirit. They were not "born above." They were not made in God's image.
When he raises us, it will be by the Spirit. (And we will be clothed in bodies, not these. Who knows what?)
You've no doubt heard we are "in Christ." This is what that means:
(The following sounds schizophrenic if one doesn't follow the procession of fathers and sons in Genesis and doesn't register the verses about "Noah, the eighth preacher of righteousness" and "Enoch, seventh from Adam" in the NT and doesn't know "Melchizedek" is just a transliteration of "Righteous King".)
That God came in the flesh put God in the procession of "the righteous king" (the order of Melchizedek), that procession from father to eldest son upon the father's death, starting with Adam. Since God/Christ is of Adam according to the flesh but Adam's father by the spirit--and living!--he is now forever the priest-king, the head of Adam's descendants according to God, the one by whom we are to be found righteous or not. Before Christ, we were in Adam. Now we are in Christ. Paul writes about this. -
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nine2fivestudio (nine2fivestudio@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 01-Jan-2026 12:19:19 JST
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@Ash_Kvetchum @Nudhul @Xenophon > Edomites were of Adam but only in part
What's the other part? -
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Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 01-Jan-2026 12:19:19 JST
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Nudhul (nudhul@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 01-Jan-2026 12:19:20 JST
Nudhul
@Xenophon @Ash_Kvetchum well they got the Atheist+ movement out of that strategy, so... :blob_shrug: -
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Ash Kvetchum (ash_kvetchum@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 01-Jan-2026 12:19:20 JST
Ash Kvetchum
Going back to what you wrote earlier
>i gotta say, churches did themselves no favors by portraying god as a neurotic and abusive paren
Churches (Christians making them and of them) have been on one about this. They really do teach as if a son saves us from his dad. His dad is harsh with curfews and talks about making a sacrifice, but the son who understands you more because he's more like you is about love, forgiveness, and being there for others. And secretly the harsh father sent his son to do this and that's the lesson all along. And they're both God. And there's the Holy Spirit which is God leading me to this conclusion because I've been wanting faith and am now so faithful.
Change the tone of that bit above with a few noun changes, and this is the honest take-away of most Christians. -
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Nudhul (nudhul@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 01-Jan-2026 12:19:20 JST
Nudhul
@Ash_Kvetchum @Xenophon tbh, characterizing God as a person i feel is inaccurate and unhelpful. i understand what its kind of just what people do, but it doesn't really match anything they describe. that's always been a point of contention for me.
"we are made in God's image" -> "God is a big tall human man, and He's just kind of out there somewhere" ???? -
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Nudhul (nudhul@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 01-Jan-2026 12:19:21 JST
Nudhul
@Ash_Kvetchum i gotta say, churches did themselves no favors by portraying god as a neurotic and abusive parent, but i think thats an effect of the obsessive focus on damnation from the fire and brimstone pastors. in the end, it encourages performative morality (virtue signaling) which everyone saw for exactly what it was. -
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Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 01-Jan-2026 12:19:21 JST
Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits
They saw it as a service because it is easier to convert people if you say
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?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 01-Jan-2026 12:24:33 JST
?? Humpleupagus ??
Mohammad was a ginger. Change my mind. -
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Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 01-Jan-2026 12:24:34 JST
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I domt understand why in the year 2025 with all the info we have people have teverted to believing Whites came from Europe. -
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Växẍ Säbbäth (vaxxsabbath@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Thursday, 01-Jan-2026 13:33:20 JST
Växẍ Säbbäth
@Humpleupagus @Ash_Kvetchum @Xenophon @nine2fivestudio @Nudhul (whispers briefly into Hump’s ear)
Hump: “I’m sorry, my mistake; I’m a bit dyslexic and got that word turned around, he was a nigger, thank you for your attention to this matter alhamdulillah”
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Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 01-Jan-2026 17:02:11 JST
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nah, you're just retarded. But happy new year all the same. -
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?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 01-Jan-2026 17:02:11 JST
?? Humpleupagus ??
If Eve had sex with Satan, niggers would be smart. 😤 -
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nine2fivestudio (nine2fivestudio@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 01-Jan-2026 17:02:12 JST
nine2fivestudio
@Ash_Kvetchum @Nudhul @Xenophon yeah, all of this is CI nonsense. That whole "Eve had sex with Satan yielding non-whites" is a CI thing. It's eisegesis and demonstrates a critical misunderstanding of how to read a book, much less the Bible.
It's in the same vein as jewish midrashic/Talmudic "studies" or JW Watchtower propaganda. I don't need to spill ink refuting what others have already refuted. -
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Ash Kvetchum (ash_kvetchum@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 01-Jan-2026 17:02:13 JST
Ash Kvetchum
Nine2five, man, we've talked about this.
I'll just start by saying there's not a standing body authority over CI, no pope or committee saying "This is our creed." Same as there isn't one of, say, Christianity. There are divisions and some divisions get behind leaders. So anyone claiming "I've talked to a CI guy and I took CI down!" is like some faithful-to-progressivism, confident Leftist talking to a random on fedi--or even to some "big follower account" somewhere--and saying they "DESTROYED (YouTube all caps) the ideas of the Far-Right!!1!"
The label "CI" is no more useful than the label "Christian." It's only a label of which beliefs are in common--not a statement that all (or even most) beliefs are in common.
Keep that in mind as you mull over things.
Alright, so.
I'm just hitting bullet points because we've talked about this.
Edomites are from Esau (Edom). Esau himself was down from Adam, and Esau took two Hittites for wives to spite Isaac and his mother. (His mother lamented that if Jacob followed suit, her life would have been pointless.) The Hittites were Canaanites. The Canaanites had mixed with Kenites. The Kenites were from Cain.
(btw The Canaanites had also mixed with the Anakim, the Rephraim, etc., who were the Nephilim. This is explicitly stated.)
Cain was not from Adam, but was of Eve.
The verse describing Cain's conception is volatile, changing more than the verses around it. "I have born a child of a lord / with the help of a lord" and its variations are among these, missing the "And Adam knew his wife" at the beginning.
(Yes, God's Word will never change. No, our recording of God's Word doesn't keep with that. Otherwise, Revelation wouldn't end with a warning about the possibility of adding or subtracting text, we wouldn't have clear examples of verses and entire passages added centuries after the NT authors wrote (even as late as the 16th c.), and we wouldn't have multiple versions on the same bookstore shelf. "The" Bible is not infallible because we who handle it are not. We turn it away from what its authors wrote--by accident at times, or with intent at others.)
The description of Eve's interaction with the "Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil" is the same as descriptions of sexual temptation in writings just as old. The epic of Gilgamesh is an example.
Or in Proverbs of an adulterous woman.
Note that in the garden were "all the trees which God had made" and *in the midst of those* were the Tree of Life (which is God, who would "be like a Husband" to us) and the Tree of Knowledge. (Hmm? Are we talking about an actual tree still?)
Eve didn't eat from a tree. She conceived with an angel, just as happens 3 chapters later with other women (Gen 6:1), for which God floods the land of the descendants of Adam and starts again with Noah.
Alright, I'm cooking chicken now. Again, those are bulllet points of things I've already written more at length about with you specifically. I didn't even touch Malachi, Isaiah passages (ch 63, for example and its relation to the latter chapters of Revelation), the two Revelation verses I'm sure everyone on fedi knows (2:9, 3:9), and more and more. -
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Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 01-Jan-2026 17:04:03 JST
Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits
That's where you're wrong bucko. Niggers are just livestock. -
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?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 01-Jan-2026 17:04:03 JST
?? Humpleupagus ??
I thought they were made when Lilth fucked a monkey. -
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Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits (xenophon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Thursday, 01-Jan-2026 17:06:12 JST
Sturmführer Xeno Fish Biscuits
also happy new year nigger. -
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?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 01-Jan-2026 17:06:12 JST
?? Humpleupagus ??
Happy New Year.
I just woke up. I literally can't play vidya. Bomberman '94 made my eyes roll back in my head.
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