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   翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 19-Dec-2025 22:58:05 JST 翠星石
   It's amazing how bloated Linux now is even though on most computers you only use a handful of drivers.
   
   LiGNUx distros are seriously now shipping 1GB+ of bloat that you'll never use 90% of.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 19-Dec-2025 23:01:58 JST 翠星石

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     • SuperDicq
     @SuperDicq Those Gentoo developers don't even know how to configure Linux correctly.
     
     gentoo-kernel-bin is bloated garbage and the .config is a joke - if you want to get an acceptable result, you need to prepare your own .config of GNU Linux-libre.
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Friday, 19-Dec-2025 23:01:59 JST SuperDicq

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     @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com Yes, Suiseiseki, we get it, you use Gentoo.

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Friday, 19-Dec-2025 23:02:42 JST SuperDicq

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     @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com You know what's also nice? Being able to plug in a new device and it just works without having to edit your config and recompiling first.

     snacks likes this.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 19-Dec-2025 23:04:25 JST 翠星石

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     • squid64
     @squid64 99% of users are not going to want or need kernel module signing or microsoft hyper-v drivers or appletalk.
     
     It's entirely possible to have a small base kernel and then ship each bloated modules as packages - "openwrt" does that.
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     squid64 (squid64@fedi.squid64.ca)'s status on Friday, 19-Dec-2025 23:04:27 JST squid64

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     Yeah it is, unfortunately. They could be way smaller than they are now. I think one of the reason is that they ship with full desktop environments like GNOME and KDE. They just wanna try to cover the use case of as many users as possible. The best kind of distros really are the one where you just have your very minimal base system and you install your own packages on top of that.
     
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     Blender Dumbass ( J.Y.Amihud ) (blenderdumbass@mastodon.online)'s status on Friday, 19-Dec-2025 23:05:55 JST Blender Dumbass ( J.Y.Amihud )

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     • SuperDicq

     @SuperDicq @Suiseiseki Some like them fat.

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Friday, 19-Dec-2025 23:05:55 JST SuperDicq

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     • Blender Dumbass ( J.Y.Amihud )

     @blenderdumbass@mastodon.online @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com Sure why not pivot this into a pettan vs hag lover hellthread. I'm all for it.

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Friday, 19-Dec-2025 23:16:01 JST SuperDicq

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     @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com Or plugging your drive with your GNU/Linux installation into a different computer and most things just working.

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 19-Dec-2025 23:28:18 JST 翠星石

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     • SuperDicq
     @SuperDicq I don't really plug in new devices that often.
     
     -march=native all the way.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 19-Dec-2025 23:29:29 JST 翠星石

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     • squid64
     @squid64 Arch is absolutely proprietary.
     
     Parabola is fine, but I don't use it.
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     squid64 (squid64@fedi.squid64.ca)'s status on Friday, 19-Dec-2025 23:29:30 JST squid64

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     What are your thoughts on Archlinux, or Parabola?
     
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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Saturday, 20-Dec-2025 00:20:44 JST SuperDicq

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     • Free as in free beer

     @freebeer@freesoftwareextremist.com It's not even close to the kind of minimal setup that Suiseiseki is who makes his own kernel configs specific to his own hardware, Hyperbola still has a generic kernel.

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     Free as in free beer (freebeer@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 20-Dec-2025 00:20:47 JST Free as in free beer

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     • SuperDicq
     @SuperDicq GNU Linux-libre, the kernel, on Hyperbola GNU/Linux-libre just works without any issues yet it's fairly minimal. Software could be perfected but most users don't call out the devs for it and accept the situation as is.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 20-Dec-2025 20:32:58 JST 翠星石

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     • NexusSfan
     @nexussfan Hurd is not bloated, but it lacks drivers.
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     NexusSfan (nexussfan@posts.nexussfan.cz)'s status on Saturday, 20-Dec-2025 20:33:00 JST NexusSfan

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     What about Hurd? Hurd has modular servers so it can be much less bloated compared to the massive all-in-one Linux kernel.