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   Strypey (strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Monday, 15-Dec-2025 15:26:46 JST Strypey

   • nate

   "Every Activity Pub server duplicates content. Without it there'd be no seeing posts from anybody on servers other than their home server. It's literally the thing that makes the protocol work. If being on a protocol that specifically is designed to duplicate content isn't permission enough to duplicate content then the Fediverse goes poof. Zilch. Zero. Nada."

   @nate, 2024

   https://primal.net/e/nevent1qqsp85429nftc22jm50ygwdfvknj793l7am7lqwszd0au9fscemzqzqm7dfhn

   Well put. Found via a link here;

   https://nate.mecca1.net/pages/follow/

   #fediverse #ActivityPub

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 15-Dec-2025 15:26:44 JST iced depresso

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     @strypey without knowing the specific dmca i remember people getting takedowns for files they didn't even host before. someone just sees it and files the papers and doesn't bother to check who it is.
     
     ipfs gateways have a similar thing where they have to just block random CIDRs because :cirno_shrug:
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     lj·rk (ljrk@todon.eu)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Dec-2025 10:38:47 JST lj·rk

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     • nate

     @strypey @nate Yes and no. From a legal or technical standpoint, all this is true. It is legally allowed, technically necessary. But this doesn't mean it's ethical and that it doesn't violate consent.

     I can walk up to two people speaking in "public" to eavesdrop on their conversation. But just because I can, doesn't mean it's right. I can scrape endless pfp images from WhatsApp through their contacts API. But doesn't mean it's right.

     So no, just because it's possible it doesn't mean "permission enough". It' just means that it's necessary and people have accepted the risk. Explicit permission is something different entirely. This is about consent, a human property, not about technological or legal constructs.

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Dec-2025 15:42:04 JST iced depresso

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     • nate
     @nate @strypey :neocat_magnify: i have a feeling that wouldn't hold up in court but i'm not a lawyer and judges are professional morons
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     nate (nate@social.trom.tf)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Dec-2025 15:42:06 JST nate

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     • iced depresso

     @strypey @icedquinn primal.net/e/nevent1qqsrj54de9…

     This was the DMCA prompted my mini crash out. There was something of a campaign to get bridges taken down, and the DMCA referenced standard federation. It was seperate from the 'yeet a bunch of automated DMCA alerts to random gateways' (lol, which could also probably get me going on a rant, but just a different rant about different things).