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   ☃️karolherbst☃️ (karolherbst@chaos.social)'s status on Sunday, 30-Nov-2025 10:12:00 JST ☃️karolherbst☃️

   So some people are wondering if whatever the MAGA/Linux crowed is up to is planned and on purpose.

   Yes, it is. They accuse us of what they would be doing themselves. Wayland, systemd, etc.. it's all a conspiracy to them _because_ it's the way the approach things and accuse us of the same.

   They always weaponize disagreements within the broader community for their political agendas. Every project of them is like this.

   It's sad to see how many do not understand those dynamics.

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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Sunday, 30-Nov-2025 10:11:55 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     Just install the wayland. It's for your security.
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     ☃️karolherbst☃️ (karolherbst@chaos.social)'s status on Sunday, 30-Nov-2025 10:11:56 JST ☃️karolherbst☃️

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     Claiming that systemd is bad because of "being monolithic" or "not the UNIX way" or whatever random nonsense reason you come up with is all a political game whose purpose is to divide us.

     All those have _zero_ relevance. You are just made to believe they matter, even though they absolutely don't.

     Focus on the real technical problems, limitations, drawbacks. Not some artificial "tech ideals" that have no relevance.

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     ☃️karolherbst☃️ (karolherbst@chaos.social)'s status on Sunday, 30-Nov-2025 10:11:57 JST ☃️karolherbst☃️

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     You think it's a coincidence that 90% of the anti-systemd distros are lead by absolute shitheads? Think again...

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     ☃️karolherbst☃️ (karolherbst@chaos.social)'s status on Sunday, 30-Nov-2025 10:11:58 JST ☃️karolherbst☃️

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     Every accusation of them is a self-revelation. Period. Every. Single. One.

     Also they weaponize political ideals to harm them. Things like "neutrality", or "everybody is welcomed" or "tolerance" you name it. They use those terms to undermine the ideals behind them and sow disagreement on purpose.

     Every technical disagreement is weaponized to not let us focus on the important things. And yes, most of the anti-whatever sentiments are reinforced by them.

     Don't fall for it.

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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Sunday, 30-Nov-2025 10:19:14 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     • Rusty Crab
     First, they came for the computers, and I said nothing.
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     Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 30-Nov-2025 10:19:15 JST Rusty Crab

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     @karolherbst nigga what in gods name are you talking about
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Sunday, 30-Nov-2025 11:01:50 JST Lina Inver?e

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     • Rusty Crab
     @RustyCrab @karolherbst >see someone talking utter nonsense related to linux and programming
     >look inside
     >rust
     many such cases
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     gray (gray@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 30-Nov-2025 11:57:44 JST gray

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     @karolherbst I like how you can't accept criticism of your software without resorting to ad hominem political arguments. Keep up the good work!
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     Parker Banks (parker@dsmc.space)'s status on Sunday, 30-Nov-2025 11:57:56 JST Parker Banks

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     @karolherbst
     >They always weaponize disagreements within the broader community for their political agendas
     >they weaponize political ideals to harm them
     Didn't you folks spend the last decade or two doing exactly this?
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     gray (gray@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 30-Nov-2025 11:58:53 JST gray

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     • Junes
     @Junes @karolherbst renaming systemd to bigpigd
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     Junes (junes@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 30-Nov-2025 11:58:54 JST Junes

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     @karolherbst yeah me and 300 MAGA champions (disabled) are coming to rename all your software to something actually legible
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Sunday, 30-Nov-2025 11:58:55 JST Johnny Peligro

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     • Mitch Conner
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     @mitchconner @karolherbst @gray @parker and in debian's case they have awful tooling too
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     gray (gray@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 30-Nov-2025 11:58:56 JST gray

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     @parker @karolherbst @mitchconner I use Debian. I don't care about their politics and they can't stop me from using it.
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     Mitch Conner (mitchconner@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 30-Nov-2025 11:58:56 JST Mitch Conner

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     @gray @parker @karolherbst it's very similar to that meme about not seeing color and color seeing you. You might not care about Debian's politics, but their politics are going to directly impact your experience as a user when they arbitrarily block packagers and developers.
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     Mitch Conner (mitchconner@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 30-Nov-2025 11:58:57 JST Mitch Conner

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     • gray
     @gray @karolherbst *uses Devuan and Artix harder*
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     Parker Banks (parker@dsmc.space)'s status on Sunday, 30-Nov-2025 11:58:57 JST Parker Banks

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     @mitchconner @karolherbst @gray Can I use Mint and still be a chud?
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     Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 30-Nov-2025 12:00:02 JST Pawlicker

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     @karolherbst Man if only there was an OS I could use to never deal with this kind of stuff ever again
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     Parker Banks (parker@dsmc.space)'s status on Sunday, 30-Nov-2025 12:03:43 JST Parker Banks

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     @karolherbst MAGA/Linux? What happened to GNU? You're gonna upset Stallman. Maybe we can do MAGA(GNU/Linux) instead
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     gray (gray@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 30-Nov-2025 12:06:29 JST gray

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     @mitchconner @karolherbst @parker I get it but I just need something that works out of the box. As long as the hardware works and it has a browser I'm good.
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