One of the top stories on Hacker News today was a post arguing that Mozilla shouldn't accommodate any usage of AI in Firefox because (understandably) people were mad at Big AI companies for all the horrible things they've done to users and the internet and society. But I think people are ignoring the reality that *hundreds of millions of users* are using LLMs today, and they need to have tools from platforms that will look out for their interests. https://www.anildash.com/2025/11/14/wanting-not-to-want-ai/
By all means, use Firefox and don't use AI. I don't give a damn about that, that's great. But think about this question deeply: What browser do you want your friends and family to use when they're using AI tools? We told people "social media from big companies is bad, get on Mastodon and Bluesky". And that works — provide useful alternatives. But if we simply say "stop using this thing you find useful, and I won't give you any alternatives", they'll just ignore us. And Big AI will win.
@freediverx "L take" is the last bastion of the person with no argument. What trust, exactly, have you lost? What's the _actual_ harm that you've suffered — not "I don't like the way this was communicated", but an actual harm that you have suffered, and in what way did you engage with taking agency to remedy that harm? What platform do you use now?
@codinghorror I mean, I have sympathy for "Don't do this, and let's figure out what to do instead!" Because sometimes it's hard to solve problems and we have to band together to find alternatives. But "don't do this bad thing, dumbass, be smart like me" sure is guaranteed to fail.
@anildash - As one of the many people who posted in the Mozilla thread, I agree that the "nobody wants AI in Firefox" sentiment expressed by the majority is incorrect. Clearly *someone* wants it. *I* don't want it, and made an account just to say so, along with urging that any AI features be *fully opt-outable*.
@ewhac are you unaware that ChatGPT is in the top 10 websites in the United States, from *direct input* — meaning people typing in the website address themselves so that they can use it? That Sora has been at the top of the App Store chart for _weeks_? How did I lose you by talking about a factual thing? Is everyone on Mastodon in a complete bubble where they don't have access to reality, isolated from the actual internet?
@anildash Your argument appears to be, "Well, everyone *else* is jumping off the Empire State Building, so..."
You basically lost me in paragraph four, with, "Hundreds of millions of users are choosing to go to these websites, of their own volition, and engage with these tools."
"Choosing?" Really? The same way people "choose" to use Edge, or "choose" to use Bing, or "choose" to use the Mob's protection services?
What role do you see any browser having in protecting users against LLMs?
Hey @anildash - speaking as a RL friend of @ewhac, maybe you shouldn't imitate the tactic of those you're critiquing by speaking of "everyone" on Mastodon when you're replying to individual critics. 🙂
@manualdousuario I liked your post, to be clear! I am glad you took it in the spirit I intended. I think there's definitely room for thoughtful disagreement here — this is a tough set of questions for us all to think through.