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   翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 27-Oct-2025 20:39:22 JST 翠星石

   • okasion
   @anokasion It doesn't really affect much at all - there was the "energy star" certification (the GNUbootable ThinkPads have that) and for decades windows has implemented power saving modes - but it was always possible to disable the throttling and set "performance mode" in windows (although crappy windows laptops have drivers that reduce clocks aggressively on battery to make the battery last more than a pitiful amount of time).
   
   The real reason for the slowdowns is intentionally incompetent programming to make the software even slower yet again - every time CPUs get ~2x faster, proprietary software gets ~2.5x slower to compensate - so you better go and buy a new computer.
   
   When it comes to power consumption, I did some calculations ages ago and it is far more energy efficient to keep using already manufactured "power inefficient" computers for several decades than it is to manufacture new hardware.
   
   MX GNU/Linux certainly isn't the best as it's proprietary software.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 27-Oct-2025 22:01:32 JST 翠星石

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     • Ube Maija
     @ube @anokasion I don't use windows anymore - it's not installed onto any of my computers - not even as a VM.
     
     Years ago I used windows until I realized I had been conned.
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     Ube Maija (ube@spergia.net)'s status on Monday, 27-Oct-2025 22:01:33 JST Ube Maija

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     @Suiseiseki @anokasion i cant believe you use windows, its like i dont even know who you are anymore...
     we're breaking up
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 27-Oct-2025 22:33:29 JST 翠星石

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     • Ube Maija
     @ube @anokasion I realized Linux is a con as well - as it's proprietary software.
     
     The holy GNU was finally revealed one day and I never looked back.
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     Ube Maija (ube@spergia.net)'s status on Monday, 27-Oct-2025 22:33:30 JST Ube Maija

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     @Suiseiseki @anokasion conned by what linux?
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 27-Oct-2025 22:35:07 JST 翠星石

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     • Ube Maija
     @ube @anokasion Holy GNU/Hurd runners are certainly not idiots.
     
     The kernel I use is GNU Linux-libre, but if another of the GNU kernels becomes superior, I'll use that.
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     Ube Maija (ube@spergia.net)'s status on Monday, 27-Oct-2025 22:35:08 JST Ube Maija

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     @Suiseiseki @anokasion what do u run hurd like an idiot? lol
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Oct-2025 01:13:20 JST 翠星石

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     • Ube Maija
     @ube @anokasion What EULA?
     
     GPLv3: "You are not required to accept this License in order to receive or run a copy of the Program. Ancillary propagation of a covered work occurring solely as a consequence of using peer-to-peer transmission to receive a copy likewise does not require acceptance."
     
     GNU software is not bloated - although speed and memory use are a tradeoff, GNU software frankly uses little memory while offering extensive functionality.
     
     GNU software is the most reliable software you can get.
     
     Very old tests confirmed that GNU software was more reliable than proprietary software and the software has had bugs worked out and test cases written over the decades between; https://www.gnu.org/software/reliability.en.html
     
     Although portability is prioritized over speed, GNU software is not slow - often it is the fastest software available.
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     Ube Maija (ube@spergia.net)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Oct-2025 01:13:21 JST Ube Maija

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     • Protoss
     @Suiseiseki @anokasion @nigger i wouldnt hope on it, GNU has a nasty habit of making bloated buggy slow software and licensing it under an EULA
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Oct-2025 01:18:53 JST 翠星石

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     • Ube Maija
     @ube @anokasion >its superior foss alternatives
     "FOSS" degeneracy is all proprietary.
     
     > probably because heres a billion and one half assed nonstandard double dash proprietary to GNU switches on everything slowing it down
     Pretty much everything uses getopt() or getopt_long(), which is quite fast and adds pretty much no overhead - there is no possible slowdown once the argument parsing is done regardless.
     
     The long options argument format is well documented and everyone is welcome to document it - parts of it has gone into POSIX.
     
     The added options are to add essential GNU functionality that is severely lacking in inferior clones of GNU.
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     Ube Maija (ube@spergia.net)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Oct-2025 01:18:54 JST Ube Maija

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     @Suiseiseki @anokasion GNU software tends to run slower and use more memory than its superior foss alternatives probably because heres a billion and one half assed nonstandard double dash proprietary to GNU switches on everything slowing it down
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Oct-2025 01:29:35 JST 翠星石

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     • Ube Maija
     @ube @anokasion >FOSS soluttions like GNU
     GNU is free software; https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html#four-freedoms
     
     "FOSS" tries to be neutral between corporate bootlicking and free software, but it fails to be neutral; https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/floss-and-foss.html
     
     >GNU is the clone of bsd
     GNU had nothing to do with BSD - GNU originally cloned Unix - but it has gone so far beyond, Unix and the BSD's are like wet toilet paper to GNU/Car.
     
     The BSD's had to be convinced by GNU and others to stop being completely proprietary and all BSDs are still proprietary.
     
     >i tthink the only gnutardatiton i use is probably bash arrays on rare occasion
     You likely use far more fine GNU extensions without realizing it.
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     Ube Maija (ube@spergia.net)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Oct-2025 01:29:36 JST Ube Maija

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     @Suiseiseki @anokasion > "FOSS" degeneracy is all proprietary.
     yes which is why i'm only talking about FOSS soluttions like GNU
     
     > The added options are to add essential GNU functionality that is severely lacking in inferior clones of GNU.
     GNU is the clone of bsd and its very much not essential i tthink the only gnutardatiton i use is probably bash arrays on rare occasion
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Oct-2025 01:40:01 JST 翠星石

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     • Ube Maija
     @ube @anokasion >yes bsd is unix.
     No BSD is a Unix - as to qualify for that trademark you need to pay and pass an extremely proprietary POSIX test-suite.
     
     Although BSDs were originally developed from Unix code, pretty much all of it has been rewritten now.
     
     >they have less restrictive licenses than the gpl
     Those contain several proprietary programs without source code which certainly restrict the user.
     
     No GPL version contains restrictions - all of such licenses give the user the 4 freedoms that the user otherwise wouldn't have under copyright law - the user just isn't granted the power to apply restrictions.
     
     >the zero clause is a rare truly free license
     The zero clause is probably not legally valid and if that is the case, that defaults to no license; https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#NoLicense
     
     https://www.fsf.org/bulletin/2025/spring/choose-the-gpl-instead-of-a-no-attribution-license-for-your-next-program - a good article, alas it neglects to mention that you should license under GPLv3-or-later
     
     >would be hard when i dont use gnu myself directly. i am on gentoo
     Gentoo GNU full of GNU.
     
     >these roottkits waiting to happen have to stay for portage
     Free software that respects the users freedom are not rootkits.
     
     portage uses many fine GNU extensions.
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     Ube Maija (ube@spergia.net)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Oct-2025 01:40:02 JST Ube Maija

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     @Suiseiseki @anokasion > GNU had nothing to do with BSD - GNU originally cloned Unix - but it has gone so far beyond, Unix and the BSD's are like wet toilet paper to GNU/Car.
     yes bsd is unix.
     > all BSDs are still proprietary.
     actually they have less restrictive licenses than the gpl which are nearly free, the zero clause is a rare truly free license
     > You likely use far more fine GNU extensions without realizing it.
     would be hard when i dont use gnu myself directly. i am on gentoo though so unfortunately these roottkits waiting to happen have to stay for portage
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Oct-2025 01:43:53 JST 翠星石

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     • Ube Maija
     @ube @anokasion Have you considered that you are completely wrong?
     
     macos is a Unix as apple paid the fee and managed to pass the POSIX test suite.
     
     Although some code from macos was copied from BSDs, there was a lot of other code added from elsewhere, plus a lot of custom code was developed - therefore macos is not a BSD.
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     Ube Maija (ube@spergia.net)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Oct-2025 01:43:54 JST Ube Maija

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     @Suiseiseki @anokasion macos is bsd and posix certified not really reading tthe res tof your post because you broe me and are wrong
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     :segasaturn: (takao@shitposter.world)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Oct-2025 02:01:29 JST :segasaturn:

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     • Ube Maija
     @Suiseiseki @anokasion @ube macos is disgusting, that's what it is
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