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   Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 20-Oct-2025 11:28:47 JST Blurry Moon
   are you willing to extend this reasoning ("don't demand information and it can't be misused") to other places in society? Because, you should. I get asked for ID nearly everywhere, fucking retards.
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Monday, 20-Oct-2025 11:30:03 JST iced depresso

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     @sun cause its about compliance not safety
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     zonk (zonk@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 20-Oct-2025 11:53:02 JST zonk

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     @sun im not a privacy zealot by any means, but i agree wholeheartedly with this message. in russia, a lot of online services identify users by their phone number, and the only way to get a phone number legally is to provide ID to your cell phone carrier. this means that, no matter what service you're using, you can be tracked across them, since your phone number is linked to your irl identity. ordinarily this would simply be a data privacy nightmare, but with russia's world-leading corruption, there is a whole black market for user data lookup.
     
     the term of art is "пробив" (lit. "punch in", like punching in someone's credentials into a database to look them up). what this means is that there is a whole ecosystem of compromised employees at cell carriers, banks, and every single institution from government (eg gosuslugi, the federal govt's digital services platform, that's a whole different can of worms) to private (eg yandex). you can pay an incredibly trivial sum to these people and get the full biographical information about a person. just having a phone number is enough to get the full passport data (name, number, etc), current mailing/billing/registration address, call/text log for the last 90 days, and a whole bunch of personal information for the grand total of... 5000 rub (about 60 bucks). at least that's what the price was in 2018 when i looked up the info of a cocksucker that scammed me on avito (russian ebay).
     
     and this is just the information on file at a cell carrier, available to anyone dumb enough to download tor and transfer a few usdt to a random vendor on a black market. more knowledgeable individuals, as well as the intelligence services, have the ability to find out ANYTHING and EVERYTHING about you in less than 30 minutes. your phone number is connected to your social media (vk), taxi and food delivery app (yandex), your email (mail.ru), etc etc. for the price of an american IT specialist's single paycheck, you (yes, you!) can purchase enough data from these compromised employees to know anything you did and didn't want to know about a person. i don't think i need to explain why this is bad. we simply understand on an instinctual level that this level of power should not be wielded over us.
     
     this is the future we are hurtling towards when we allow discord et al to collect our personal information. eventually, our wonderful western democracies will pass the legislative framework that enables a similar amount of shenanigans, simply because these private databases will become too valuable not to regulate. we simply cannot allow our information to be collected and centralized in this manner because the russian scenario is looking at us through the shotgun barrel
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     Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 20-Oct-2025 11:55:40 JST Blurry Moon

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     @zonk I have argued for digital id in the past but it's basically only for places that really need it, like accessing government services. I don't want to give my id for literally anything else. I don't even want a digital id either, just if you have to have an id then make it not suck ass
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     zonk (zonk@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 20-Oct-2025 12:19:25 JST zonk

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     @sun yeah the current "give your ssn to a random private company and pray they decide that you are indeed yourself" situation is fucked
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     Pawslut420 (sendpaws@mitra.pawslut.party)'s status on Monday, 20-Oct-2025 12:37:06 JST Pawslut420

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     @zonk @sun Did you see how the Discord thing happened? It's literally, what you just said. Except in this case, it was bribing someone at the call center/contractor with $500 (because you also have exchange rate fuckery going on).

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