Conversation

Notices

1. Embed this notice
   Anil Dash (anildash@me.dm)'s status on Saturday, 18-Oct-2025 06:04:00 JST Anil Dash

   By popular request: here's the majority AI view, writing up the reasonable, thoughtful take on LLMs that (in my experience) the vast majority of people in tech hold, that gets overshadowed by the bluster and hype of the tycoons trying to shill their nonsense. https://www.anildash.com//2025/10/17/the-majority-ai-view/ Please share!

   • Embed this notice
     Anil Dash (anildash@me.dm)'s status on Sunday, 19-Oct-2025 03:00:23 JST Anil Dash

     in reply to

     • David Zaslavsky

     @diazona that’s why I’m working to normalize this and make us visible.

   • Embed this notice
     David Zaslavsky (diazona@techhub.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Oct-2025 03:00:24 JST David Zaslavsky

     in reply to

     @anildash It's so nice to see someone saying this! I am definitely in that majority.

     One little thing I'd chime in from my perspective: there's some portion of tech people (or is it just me?) who aren't talking about this view not because we're afraid to, but because nobody (ish) listens to us average tech people, so it wouldn't matter.

     #tech #programming

   • Embed this notice
     Anil Dash (anildash@me.dm)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Oct-2025 22:50:00 JST Anil Dash

     in reply to

     • Jon

     @jdp23 I think that’s a fair critique. And no technology is apolitical. But I think putting it into the “normal” category is what *lets* us evaluate which implementations are political projects. I don’t think my local model trained consensually on ky own words is, for example.

   • Embed this notice
     Jon (jdp23@neuromatch.social)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Oct-2025 22:50:01 JST Jon

     in reply to

     I appreciate you pointing out that even a majority of tech people who believe LLMs have utility think that the loud voices over-hyping and forcing people to use these technologies are counter-productive.

     That said, this article strikes me as using the rhetorical trick of positioning centrists as the "reasonable majority." For example:

     What we all want is for people to just treat AI as a "normal technology"

     Really? A fair number of tech people I think are very reasonable don't see "AI" that way -- for example, viewing it as primarily a political project and/or a technology whose purpose is to reify and magnify discrimination and oppression.

     So while it's true that that this more radical view isn't currently the majority, your framing winds up erasing it completely. Instead , you suggest that "reasonable" people see the utility of LLMs ... and since you didn't mention any of the ethical critiques, you also imply that "reasonable" people aren't concerned with any of those issues.

     @anildash

   • Embed this notice
     Anil Dash (anildash@me.dm)'s status on Saturday, 15-Nov-2025 17:32:48 JST Anil Dash

     in reply to

     • The Shaking Earth

     @earthshaking so your feeling is you are smart and right and insightful and they're all fools who just are too dumb to know what you know about everything? But if they would just hear your wisdom, then they would stop using it? Is your plan to tell them they're dumb and then wait for them to have an epiphany?

   • Embed this notice
     The Shaking Earth (earthshaking@mastodon.eternalaugust.com)'s status on Saturday, 15-Nov-2025 17:32:49 JST The Shaking Earth

     in reply to

     @anildash "hundreds of millions of non expert users are using ai and like it" millions of people readily used arsenic for their complexions and ether as a painkiller and cocaine for their nerves, that doesn't mean it was good for them, but it was there and for sale at every corner and people with money to make shouted the supposed benefits as loud as they could

     sometimes people get fucking bamboozled in numbers