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   Lesley Carhart :unverified: (hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange)'s status on Thursday, 09-Oct-2025 10:07:14 JST Lesley Carhart :unverified:

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   @http_error_418 when you say something like this there is always those people who are like, "back in my day I got into infosec with my bootstraps and a nintendo game" and its totally not reflective of the market right now.

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     Chris Farris :verified: (jcfarris@infosec.exchange)'s status on Thursday, 09-Oct-2025 10:07:13 JST Chris Farris :verified:

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     @hacks4pancakes @http_error_418

     Back in my day, I got into security from a whistle I found in my cereal box. I don't see why kids these days are complaining. Probably the avocado toast.

     (Narrator: I'm not _that_ old, but my path was about as relevant as Draper's to today's infosec).

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     ⠠⠵ avuko (avuko@infosec.exchange)'s status on Thursday, 09-Oct-2025 10:10:15 JST ⠠⠵ avuko

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     @hacks4pancakes @http_error_418 back in my day I could get into infosec because I am a white cishet dude with white cishet dude friends who helped me into #infosec. Admittedly I came from an IT background of a couple of years, but so did everybody else then.

     I probably wouldn’t make it into this field nowadays. Not because white cishet dudes don’t gatekeep for and help other white cishet dudes any more. I’m sure that’s still exactly the same.

     But because I would lack the experience and certifications required nowadays.