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mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius: (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 00:07:15 JST 
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Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 00:07:12 JST 
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@Ergo @fsf @mangeurdenuage grim is my prognosis -
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Ergo (can I be part of the normal group please I beg you I am also normal) (ergo@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 00:07:13 JST 
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@mangeurdenuage @fsf he looks like a fat slob communist wearing a mask in 2025 -
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Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 00:07:46 JST
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@scarecrow @fsf @Ergo @mangeurdenuage he could've done nothing and we could all be using mit and bsd licenses and stuff would be fine -
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scarecrow (scarecrow@whinge.town)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 00:07:47 JST 
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@Ergo @fsf @mangeurdenuage no he’s a morally consistent autist that did more with his life than you could ever hope to. -
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scarecrow (scarecrow@whinge.town)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 00:07:48 JST
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@Ergo @fsf @mangeurdenuage eat shit. Stallman is a hero. Fuck off with your petty political bullshit. -
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Ergo (can I be part of the normal group please I beg you I am also normal) (ergo@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 00:07:48 JST
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@scarecrow @fsf @mangeurdenuage Isnt he basically a woke commie with mental illness Johnny Peligro likes this. -
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Ergo (can I be part of the normal group please I beg you I am also normal) (ergo@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 00:08:02 JST
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@takao @fsf @mangeurdenuage the mask is what signals mental illness, anybody can have health issues and become a fat fuck I suppose Johnny Peligro likes this. -
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:segasaturn: (takao@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 00:08:03 JST 
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@Ergo @mangeurdenuage @fsf we need to pump more freedom food down his gullet tbh -
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Ergo (can I be part of the normal group please I beg you I am also normal) (ergo@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 00:14:23 JST
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@mangeurdenuage @fsf
Humans are not books. You should use a human by his appearance.
I like free software itself but I dont like most people associated with itJohnny Peligro likes this. -
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mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius: (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 00:14:24 JST
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@Ergo @fsf Fortunately anyone sane doesn't judge a book by it's over. -
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mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius: (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 00:18:30 JST
mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius:
@Ergo @scarecrow @fsf
> as in actually accomplished anything
It's pretty simple. If nothing would have mattered then you wouldn't be there chatting, none of us would be there. The domino effect that the software freedom movement created is one of those moment in history called crossroads.翠星石 and Another Linux Walt Alt like this. -
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Ergo (can I be part of the normal group please I beg you I am also normal) (ergo@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 00:18:31 JST
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@scarecrow @fsf @mangeurdenuage
You say that but its difficult for me to believe that he actually did that as in actually accomplished anything.
Do you mean he was paid to appear in various asperger meetings all over the world and gave speeches on them that sounded like an elderly person with dementia. -
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Ergo (can I be part of the normal group please I beg you I am also normal) (ergo@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 00:18:32 JST
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@scarecrow @fsf @mangeurdenuage oh really, what did he do in the last 9999999 years after the initial period when he wrote some GNU tools and started a community going.
I mean apart from hurting the image of free software.waifu repeated this. -
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scarecrow (scarecrow@whinge.town)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 00:18:32 JST
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@Ergo @fsf @mangeurdenuage traveled the world collecting investments for the fsf and convincing the entire world to seriously invest in oss. -
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Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 00:26:38 JST
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@mangeurdenuage @fsf @Ergo @scarecrow something better and as free as the mit and bsd licenses would've come around anyway -
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mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius: (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 00:26:39 JST
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@mischievoustomato @fsf @Ergo @scarecrow Mit and bsd licenses wouldn't even exist without RMS's work. 翠星石 likes this. -
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Ergo (can I be part of the normal group please I beg you I am also normal) (ergo@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 00:38:41 JST
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@mangeurdenuage @fsf @scarecrow
what if it was inevitable that a group of people would want to maintain control over their computing and Richard's existence doesn't matter.
What if Google and Linus have done 99999999999999999% more than Stallman for usJohnny Peligro likes this. -
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Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 00:38:47 JST
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@Ergo @fsf @mangeurdenuage @scarecrow google, linus and apple -
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pettanko (pettanko@tsundere.love)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 00:40:35 JST 
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@mangeurdenuage @fsf @Ergo fortunately the inside of the book sucks too Johnny Peligro likes this. -
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mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius: (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 01:24:40 JST
mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius:
@Ergo @scarecrow It's ok, that's your freedom to do so. We all argument on the knowledge/experience we have on the present time we do it. Another Linux Walt Alt likes this. -
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Ergo (can I be part of the normal group please I beg you I am also normal) (ergo@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 01:24:41 JST
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@mangeurdenuage @scarecrow its not appropriate to tell people that you think they are fat oogly and stupid, unasked. -
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Ergo (can I be part of the normal group please I beg you I am also normal) (ergo@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 01:24:42 JST
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I don't want them to read things that are insulting to them. -
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mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius: (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 01:24:42 JST
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@Ergo @scarecrow If insulting if your intentions are to insult. Otherwise you're just making incorrect criticisms . -
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mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius: (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 01:24:43 JST
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@Ergo @fsf @scarecrow
>this wasn't mean for them to see
:aniwhat: It's ok to be transparent imo. -
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Ergo (can I be part of the normal group please I beg you I am also normal) (ergo@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 01:24:45 JST
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@mangeurdenuage @fsf @scarecrow Idk man, but its not about "who had the idea" it's about who did the work, and I guess it makes sense that Stallman goes to so many places and gives so many talks, because the other people are actually working and developing the tools we enjoy.
Im not saying he never did anything good, but I'm getting tired of the guy
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Ergo (can I be part of the normal group please I beg you I am also normal) (ergo@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 01:24:45 JST
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@mangeurdenuage @fsf @scarecrow oh shit I didn't notice the fsf itself is tagged on this thread lmao
I'm sorry this wasn't mean for them to see -
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mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius: (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 01:24:46 JST
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@Ergo @fsf @scarecrow No, all is well documented about that.
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 20:22:11 JST 
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@Ergo @fsf @mangeurdenuage @scarecrow He wrote more than just write part of the GNU tools - tools are only a few GNU packages; https://www.gnu.org/software/
When no free C compiler existed, he went and wrote one (the original version of GCC) and passed that on to other developers - later he wrote much of the GCC manual.
He was the original author of GNU Emacs and has written most of the manual too.
He wrote much of the; GPLv1, GPLv2, GPLv3, LGPLv2, LGPLv2.1 & LGPLv3 - although many other people and a lawyer assisted him.
He has also worked a lot on many other GNU packages - although he passed such packages to .
He was the one who put free software into a definition, freedom being free hurts the image of free software?
He has written many articles as published on gnu.org - which is also in print.
More recently he published the GNU C intro and reference; https://www.gnu.org/software/c-intro-and-ref/
He still works on GNU Emacs, but he doesn't really need to program for GNU anymore - as plenty of programmers have been found - some of which are employed to work on GNU packages.
Instead, he works on things that most programmers don't bother with - writing free manuals for example.
He also travels the world to give speeches about freedom - the free software is there - the issue now is that people don't realize that it's free software. -
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 20:25:43 JST
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@scarecrow @fsf @Ergo @mangeurdenuage Sorry, but that is incorrect.
Most of the FSF's funding is from individuals - companies like google have tried donating the FSF, to get them to do what they want, but stopped after realizing that the FSF wasn't manipulated by such donations.
"open source" misses the point; https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html and he takes offense if you gravely insult him by referring to his work as "open source".
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scarecrow (scarecrow@whinge.town)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 20:26:41 JST
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@Ergo @fsf @mangeurdenuage that is what he did, you can find videos in various languages of him doing exactly that. The fsf also maintains the gnu coreutils and gcc, a large majority of the worlds infrastructure runs on those tools. -
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 20:26:41 JST
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@scarecrow @fsf @Ergo @mangeurdenuage GCC is not a tool.
Those are only 2 GNU packages - and not even the best ones; https://www.gnu.org/software/ -
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 20:28:42 JST
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@mischievoustomato @fsf @Ergo @mangeurdenuage @scarecrow The absolutely proprietary delusion.
BSDs were released under proprietary licenses until rms and others asked them to consider using a free license.
The world would already be complete proprietary slavery if actually decent software wasn't defended by strong licenses (garbage software under a weak license is damaging enough). -
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 20:31:47 JST
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@Ergo @fsf @mangeurdenuage @scarecrow >what if it was inevitable that a group of people would want to maintain control over their computing
The only people who ever actually cared about maintaining control over computing were and are part of GNU.
There was only proprietary C compilers until rms was the first to release a free one.
While google wants to have control over their computing - their whole idea is that nobody else gets control over their computing.
Linus has done little more than be the main developer of a proprietary kernel that could not have been written and doesn't work at all without GNU.
Unlike Linus, GNU has given us a free version of Linux; GNU Linux-libre. -
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 20:33:50 JST
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@mangeurdenuage @fsf @Ergo @scarecrow Linus was convinced to adopt the GPLv2-ambigious on seeing a freedom lecture from rms at his university.
Previously he had released Linux as proprietary software, but he still wouldn't have a chance in hell of writing it without GNU. -
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mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius: (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 20:34:18 JST
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@Ergo @fsf @scarecrow
>it's about who did the work
There's a silly imagine about that, implying gcc coreutils etc...
Who made those ? Who depend on those ?
>how many decades has he been telling the same story about his time in MIT
How many decades have Microsoft apple and google told they made the world from scratch ?
Imo you need to chill. Idk from what corner of the web you come from but you remind of myself when I astrosurfed imageboards, leddit and other similar types of websites. Then I learned that friendship and sanity has been lost one these due to corpo/gov intervention on those so I just ignore their bs now.翠星石 likes this. -
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 20:36:17 JST
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@mischievoustomato @fsf @Ergo @mangeurdenuage @scarecrow No it wouldn't have.
All that would have resulted would be terrible licenses like the 4-clause BSD without rms and others asking for real free licenses to be used. -
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@mangeurdenuage @fsf @Ergo @scarecrow (The circle should really be much larger showing all the GNU packages and Linux being a much smaller sliver. -
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 20:39:05 JST
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@Ergo @fsf @mangeurdenuage @scarecrow *although he passed such packages to other developers who had more interest and available time for that package. -
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 20:47:29 JST
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@scarecrow @fsf @Ergo @mangeurdenuage I was professionally diagnosed not autistic.
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scarecrow (scarecrow@whinge.town)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 20:47:30 JST
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@Suiseiseki @fsf @Ergo @mangeurdenuage ok autist -
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Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 23:29:27 JST
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@Ergo @fsf @shakil_tcs @mangeurdenuage @scarecrow pretty much, stuff happens. people would've wanted a way to just deal with code. -
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Ergo (can I be part of the normal group please I beg you I am also normal) (ergo@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 23:29:28 JST
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@shakil_tcs @mischievoustomato @fsf @mangeurdenuage @scarecrow It kinda does mean that tho, often times there were a dozen guys working on the same thing and the one we know is just whoever arbitrarily did it first or they all chose one to be the head of it -
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Shakil Akhtar 🇸🇦 🇵🇸 (shakil_tcs@mstdn.starnix.network)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 23:29:29 JST 
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@mischievoustomato @fsf @Ergo @mangeurdenuage @scarecrow This "would have come around anyway" is an incredibly stupid take. Everything in life would have gone some way or the other. If it was not Newton with his laws of motion, then it would have been someone else. But that doesn't mean Newton's contribution is small or insignificant.
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Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 23:31:54 JST
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@shakil_tcs @fsf @Ergo @mangeurdenuage @scarecrow english motherfucker, do you speak it? -
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Shakil Akhtar 🇸🇦 🇵🇸 (shakil_tcs@mstdn.starnix.network)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 23:31:55 JST
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@mischievoustomato @fsf @Ergo @mangeurdenuage @scarecrow What language is this : "pretty much, stuff happens. people would've wanted a way to just deal with code"?
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 23:34:28 JST
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@shakil_tcs @mischievoustomato @fsf @Ergo @mangeurdenuage @scarecrow Newton was a scientist that made many discoveries and came up with theories.
Many other people have made those same discoveries again and again and have come up with many similar theories and therefore without Newton, those would have been found - although it may have taken several hundred years more until that occurred.
When it comes to writing a software license - you actually have to write it - you can't go and discover it and without someone wanting a free license, or asking for one, why would a free license be written?
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 23:37:13 JST
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@Ergo @fsf @shakil_tcs @mangeurdenuage @mischievoustomato @scarecrow The only person who decided to write a free OS that would survive beyond a machine going obsolete was rms.
There was already the Incompatible Timesharing System, but all that work turned to dust when the machine broke down and there wasn't anyone left that could fix it.
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Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 23:37:53 JST
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@shakil_tcs @fsf @Ergo @mangeurdenuage @scarecrow yes -
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Shakil Akhtar 🇸🇦 🇵🇸 (shakil_tcs@mstdn.starnix.network)'s status on Sunday, 05-Oct-2025 23:37:55 JST
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@mischievoustomato @fsf @Ergo @mangeurdenuage @scarecrow Oh spawn of Sus scrofa domesticus, in dialect and grammar system of English, does this phrase have any meaning : "pretty much, stuff happens" ?
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