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   lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 18-Sep-2025 13:00:58 JST lainy
   The nothingburger economy
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     kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Thursday, 18-Sep-2025 15:22:51 JST kaia

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     @lain is it true that Muricans are ducked right now or are all those "I applied to 600 jobs" just a grift?
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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 18-Sep-2025 15:25:14 JST lainy

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     @kaia very hard to say. it is worse than it was a few years ago but every time i see one of those extreme examples (like, people saying they have an MIT degree and can't get a job) there's a different reason why they aren't getting hired.
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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 18-Sep-2025 15:26:12 JST lainy

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     @kaia i think the chattering classes have been hit unexpectedly hard and they are the most vocal, so that might contribute.
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     Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Thursday, 18-Sep-2025 15:26:42 JST Mr. Bacon

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     @kaia @lain both, like middle class jobs are tough to come by right now, but like entry level jobs are easy as hell, but all the college grads refuse to work like retail, restaurants, ect. They all want to be MARKETING MANAGERS and do nothing all day and get paid 80k/year.
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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 18-Sep-2025 15:27:12 JST lainy

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     @Tony @kaia yeah, so the signal might be so strong because it's the kind of people who go on reddit and twitter to poast about it
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     mothball蛾玉 (西洋巣酸の木) (moth_ball@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 18-Sep-2025 15:32:08 JST mothball蛾玉 (西洋巣酸の木)

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     @kaia @lain both the public and private sector hate the average consumer so I'd say they're not well off in any case
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     Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Thursday, 18-Sep-2025 15:32:24 JST Mr. Bacon

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     @lain @kaia i mean i work in the trades and i have literally never gone more than a week without working if I was actively looking. I just think gen z grads are'nt willing to do work they view as "beneath them".
     
     Like if you were to look at hotels, coffee places (maybe not), maintenance jobs, labor jobs, cleaning jobs, basically the blue collar stuff there's a big labor shortage and they take anyone who can fog a mirror and pay $25-$30/hr.
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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 18-Sep-2025 15:38:23 JST lainy

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     @Tony @kaia yeah, with all the noise there is about minimum wage being low, there's practically nobody who actually works minimum wage. last time i was in the US i was surprised to see how much mcdonald's is willing to pay in some cities.
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     jesu (jesu@pl.kotobank.ch)'s status on Thursday, 18-Sep-2025 15:40:52 JST jesu

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     @lain @kaia @Tony mcdonalds knows no one wants to work as a fast food cook, gotta make it worth it
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     Mr. Bacon (tony@clew.lol)'s status on Thursday, 18-Sep-2025 15:42:29 JST Mr. Bacon

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     @lain @kaia oh yah, around here i've seen 23-25/hr lol it's insane. Well, also, teenagers don't relaly work anymore. When i was growing up fast food was always jobs for like 15-16 year olds
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     kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Friday, 19-Sep-2025 01:08:15 JST kaia

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     sorry to hear! is it because people don't use RVs anymore or there's too much competition or sth else? :l_curious:
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     I am Water (slicerdicer@friedcheese.us)'s status on Friday, 19-Sep-2025 01:08:16 JST I am Water

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     @kaia @lain Well I can’t get a job even local mundane job. I’m like an RV expert with all my own tools. I ran a mobile rv service before working in tech. Im extremely capable, just no opportunities.
     
     I dunno what to say. It has been over a year.
     
     When you look at the data it’s like some 34 years or something to replace all the unemployed. At the rate we’ve been hiring people.
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     I am Water (slicerdicer@friedcheese.us)'s status on Friday, 19-Sep-2025 01:10:17 JST I am Water

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     @kaia @lain Plenty of RVs just no one wants to hire. I even tried applying to dairy jobs all kinds of things. It’s just not happening.
     
     That and it’s extremely competitive. So many people applying. Just means you’re screwed. I think that some are just trying to make it look like they are hiring too. So it looks like they are growing in this shit economy. It’s so bad that the windstorm that hit here few months ago? Roofs are all fucked up, windows months without repair just plywood. No money to fix them.
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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Friday, 19-Sep-2025 02:24:31 JST lainy

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     @SlicerDicer @kaia thank you based maga god
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     I am Water (slicerdicer@friedcheese.us)'s status on Friday, 19-Sep-2025 02:24:32 JST I am Water

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     @kaia @lain Ohh cool just read Trump signed deal with Brit’ish looks like we got 15000/10/12=125 jobs a month coming for AI.
     
     WE ARE SAVED.
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     I am Water (slicerdicer@friedcheese.us)'s status on Friday, 19-Sep-2025 02:24:33 JST I am Water

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     @kaia @lain It seems to me that we can’t pay for what we have, can’t pay for what we need. Can’t do that so that means that businesses slow. That means less hiring and well shit rolls downhill.
     
     If I could I’d invest in depression and anxiety. Cause the USA is working on having a lot of it. People could then buy it and put it on their bread line and snort it. Seems about our speed right now.
     
     FYI I don’t get depression or any of that. I’d be depressed if I was homeless like I once was. That’s my benchmark. I’m not homeless so I’m doing ok lol.
     
     Dot com boom + mom being murdered * dad disappears / no family contact = homeless. That boom was awful. The crash let me get out of the homelessness. So I kinda like depressed economics. It’s my place I know well.
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     I am Water (slicerdicer@friedcheese.us)'s status on Friday, 19-Sep-2025 03:09:14 JST I am Water

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     @lain @kaia Jesus was poverty based so it makes sense.
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