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   Danielle Foré (danirabbit@mastodon.online)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Sep-2025 05:56:48 JST Danielle Foré

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   • Bradley M. Kühn

   @bkuhn Nah fuck that. You associate with known fascists. That’s fucked up

   @purple

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     Bradley M. Kühn (bkuhn@fedi.copyleft.org)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Sep-2025 05:56:44 JST Bradley M. Kühn

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     (2/2)… I certainly talk to my dad & everyone else in my life who supports Trump's Project 2025 & many of their policies *are* fascist.

     But pretending FoxNewsOfFOSS or my dad don't exist, and going even further to refusing to talk to anyone who is even willing to talk to them, seems a mistake to me. I don't blame anyone who can't stand talking to those flirting with fascism, but I do think it's constructive to confront them with dialogue & rhetoric occasionally.

     @alatiera @danirabbit @purple

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     Jordan Petridis (alatiera@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Sep-2025 05:56:45 JST Jordan Petridis

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     • Bradley M. Kühn

     @bkuhn @danirabbit @purple Fox news has more viewership than all the other channels combined. This guy can’t pay rent without a fuck trans people a week video. There are a bunch of other channels in our space with 2 magnitudes higher viewership.

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     Bradley M. Kühn (bkuhn@fedi.copyleft.org)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Sep-2025 05:56:45 JST Bradley M. Kühn

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     • Jordan Petridis

     (1/2) Note,@alatiera, my interview isn't recent. Like most ppl¹ going down the rabbit hole, Mr.FoxNewsOfFOSS gets a bit worse every month. I've known him for 20 years & like my dad¹, his toxicity is a slowly worsening target. I do think ignoring them is a mistake,tho.

     ¹My own dad is an e.g.: my dad donated to SFC's Outreachy program as recently as late 2024, & now he thinks it'll be good if I & my colleagues are “getting what we deserve“ from Trump's anti-LGBTQIA EOs.

     Cc: @danirabbit @purple

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     Jordan Petridis (alatiera@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Sep-2025 05:56:47 JST Jordan Petridis

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     • Bradley M. Kühn

     @danirabbit @bkuhn @purple Bradley, if you were to go on Fox news they would be platforming *you*.

     When you go on the Nazi hour talk show however, you are legitimizing and giving credibility to someone who is already a nobody and shunned outcast. You platformed the nazi in this case.

     Additionally, having that guy cover the issue in any authoritative capacity means that nobody is gonna touch it and its only undermines your goals.

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     Bradley M. Kühn (bkuhn@fedi.copyleft.org)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Sep-2025 05:56:47 JST Bradley M. Kühn

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     • Jordan Petridis

     @alatiera Yes, it'd be be a dream if FOSS were important enough to be platformed by Fox News. But we aren't. 🫤

     I'm barely famous enough to be invited on FOSS' “local” Fox News, but I seriously doubt it got new viewers due to my interview& the viewers got to hear the platform itself criticized for once.

     I wish I were famous enough that my doing an interview was some sort of “get”. But I'm just not.

     I'm still being careful to not say the actual name so as not to promote it.
     @danirabbit @purple

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     Bradley M. Kühn (bkuhn@fedi.copyleft.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Sep-2025 07:14:49 JST Bradley M. Kühn

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     …∴ I've spent my life as an anti-fascist, anti-capitalist, radical democratic socialist who must talk every day to racist, fascist-curious, proprietary-software-loving people who surely wish I'd die in a fire.

     But, if they'll talk to me, I'll talk to them — just for hope of changing their minds (if nothing else).

     If folks call me an “associate of fascists” for that, I support their Free Speech rights. But. I'll keep seeking restorative justice — in my own (maybe admittedly clumsy) way.

     (3/3)

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     Bradley M. Kühn (bkuhn@fedi.copyleft.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Sep-2025 07:14:50 JST Bradley M. Kühn

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     … my dad is a misguided man hoodwinked by a leader with fascist leanings. PersonInQuestion maybe is too; I dunno.

     But is the answer *really* to never talk to them, & literally block anyone who ever talked to them ever? That can't be right either.

     My perspective is weird b/c I grew up in a racist community where racial slurs were the norm. My mom told me when I was young it was ok to call a particular candy N****-toes b/c (in her words) “that's what they were called when she was a kid”…(2/3)

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     Bradley M. Kühn (bkuhn@fedi.copyleft.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Sep-2025 07:14:51 JST Bradley M. Kühn

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     I suggest being careful with rhetoric, @alatiera. I believe there are elements of fascist policies in the current USA regime. I don't think I live in a fascist country (yet), & I don't think someone who repeats the views is necessarily a fascist (&/or can grok that they are). Again, I point to my dad, who is misguided, & I'm 💔 that my dad's “get the libs” now includes true Schadenfreude that programs at my & my spouse's work evaporate due to policies my dad loves.
     But my dad's not a Nazi…(1/2)

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     Jordan Petridis (alatiera@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 04-Sep-2025 07:14:52 JST Jordan Petridis

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     @bkuhn In my opinion you are confusing what's loud for what's popular. It's a cult with a very loud following but the guy is such a failure that can't get more than 1-2k views even when he is grifting to the right. It's needs effort to be that bad at grifting.

     Like imagine being a Nazi on youtube and not being able to pay rent if there isn't a "FUCK GNOME" topic this month.

     In my view, 10 theoretical people are not worth legitimizing and platforming the Nazi. That's not how clout chasing works

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     Jordan Petridis (alatiera@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 04-Sep-2025 07:14:53 JST Jordan Petridis

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     • Bradley M. Kühn

     @bkuhn I agree with you that not dealing with him has been a colossal mistake and attitudes like that become the norm and permissible behavior.

     However you didn't go to Tucker Carlon on Fox prime time. You went on a show airing at 3 am on Newsmax

     And its not a game of sum, one thing doesn't undo the work you've done all this years. It's just that we don't want to se a repeat of it.

     @danirabbit @purple

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     Bradley M. Kühn (bkuhn@fedi.copyleft.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Sep-2025 07:14:53 JST Bradley M. Kühn

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     I wish FoxNewsOfFOSS was the 3AM Newsmax, @alatiera but sadly, he really *is* the Tucker Carlson of FOSS.
     I & my colleagues meet ppl often who learn about FOSS *from* his show. He has a *lot* of viewers & (ala Fox) get FOSS news nowhere else.
     If I got just 10 of his viewers to stop treating him as their primary FOSS news source, my interview was worth it.
     It does alarm me how quickly folks are blocking me entirely b/c I once employed a strategy that we anti-fascist can reasonably disagree about.

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     Lunduke (lunduke@linuxrocks.online)'s status on Friday, 05-Sep-2025 00:57:06 JST Lunduke

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     @bkuhn @alatiera

     That is not at all what I told you, Bradley.

     I quoted what you said publicly -- instead of having you on the show -- because you did not respond to my email.

     After I published the most recent episode, you reached out to me and inquired about coming back on the show. I told you that I would consider it if there was important news -- or a worthwhile discussion -- to warrant it.

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     Jordan Petridis (alatiera@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 05-Sep-2025 00:57:08 JST Jordan Petridis

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     @bkuhn I am careful when I call people fascists.

     If someone is parroting fascists rhetoric, they are fascists. If they do it intentionally or not it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things. And the USA is very much a fascist country yes.

     However, your father isn't a youtuber with an audience to promote this and indoctrinate thousands of people, nor did you chose your family.

     But you do get to chose your press partners.

     There is a big difference between talking and collaborating

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     Bradley M. Kühn (bkuhn@fedi.copyleft.org)'s status on Friday, 05-Sep-2025 00:57:08 JST Bradley M. Kühn

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     I think this gets down to the main place where we disagree on this, @alatiera. I'm confident that my agreement to the interview did *not* increase promotion, credibility, or revenue for that show (at least any more than same content would have with just using quotes from my public statements). *In fact*, this fellow himself answered my text messages to say that he just quoted this thread on the show rather than ask me on b/c as a live guest, I didn't bring good enough ratings in for him!

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     Lunduke (lunduke@linuxrocks.online)'s status on Friday, 05-Sep-2025 00:58:13 JST Lunduke

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     • Bradley M. Kühn

     @bkuhn @alatiera

     I also pointed out that your previous interview (earlier this year) was far below typical audience size for my articles or shows (netting only around 45 - 50k).

     But, despite the low audience interest in the topic (OSI governance), I would consider having you back on if there was a worth while bit of news to cover.

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     Lunduke (lunduke@linuxrocks.online)'s status on Friday, 05-Sep-2025 01:25:45 JST Lunduke

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     @bkuhn "said my past interview got poor ratings & he only wanted guests who would likely get good view-count."

     The "Host of the show in question" is me.

     Also, I did not say that at all. Would you like me to post screenshots of the text conversation to refresh your memory?

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     Bradley M. Kühn (bkuhn@fedi.copyleft.org)'s status on Friday, 05-Sep-2025 01:25:46 JST Bradley M. Kühn

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     (1/2) The host of show in question (a) knew my mobile number & I'd already told him clearly that call/text is best way to reach me &(b) when I reminded him of that after he misrepresented my position on his show w/out getting my comment, said my past interview got poor ratings & he only wanted guests who would likely get good view-count.
     It's his prerogative who he has on his show. I'm not offended about that¹ part…

     ¹ He's said many other offensive & false things that need not be relisted here

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     Lunduke (lunduke@linuxrocks.online)'s status on Friday, 05-Sep-2025 01:28:47 JST Lunduke

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     @bkuhn "he misrepresented my position"

     What position was misrepresented? I offered you a chance to provide corrections -- and continue to do so.

     Here's a quote from my message to you yesterday:

     "I then read your public statements verbatim and in context.

     If you feel that those statements don’t accurately reflect your views — or the views of others — feel free to let me know. If a correction or clarification is needed, I would be happy to publish one."

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     Lunduke (lunduke@linuxrocks.online)'s status on Friday, 05-Sep-2025 01:35:54 JST Lunduke

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     @bkuhn "He's said I'm only welcome on the show if I can convince him it'll get views."

     You made that up. What I said:

     "As for inviting you on the show, there needs to be a reason to do that. Some worth while news story. Or at least an interesting or worthwhile discussion to be had in public.

     Is there something else to discuss about the topic? Some vital piece of information which people don’t have? Or perhaps on the OSI topic? I’m open, but there needs to be a good reason for it."

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     Bradley M. Kühn (bkuhn@fedi.copyleft.org)'s status on Friday, 05-Sep-2025 01:35:55 JST Bradley M. Kühn

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     … which proves my point he's *not* a journalist; he's an entertainer (akin to Tucker Carlson) who uses trappings of “news” & “journalism” to spread offensive views.

     He has a right to Free Speech to, not to Free Promotion (which is why I don't say his name).

     I'm not afraid to talk to him, or debate him (even on this meta point), but I never have & never will promote him.

     But, the matter is now closed since he's said I'm only welcome on the show if I can convince him it'll get views.

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     Lunduke (lunduke@linuxrocks.online)'s status on Friday, 05-Sep-2025 02:42:53 JST Lunduke

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     @bkuhn @lwn @arstechnica @thomasclaburn

     You have repeatedly made false statements regarding our communications. I provided direct quotes to refute your bizarre statements.

     You also have been provided several opportunities to correct or comment on the coverage (which included reading quotes from you, in context). As yet I have seen no corrections provided.

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     Bradley M. Kühn (bkuhn@fedi.copyleft.org)'s status on Friday, 05-Sep-2025 02:42:54 JST Bradley M. Kühn

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     For those who haven't (as I have) been interviewed both by real journalists & lazy/fake ones (the latter is sadly far too common in “tech press”):

     Real journalists keep on file best contact info for folks they cover & will use that method to contact them. If they can't reach the subject via that best known means, they'll dispassionately state: “The subject was unavailable for immediate comment”.

     I wanna thank @lwn, @arstechnica, & The Register (esp. @thomasclaburn) — who always get this right.