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david celis (davidcelis@xoxo.zone)'s status on Saturday, 30-Aug-2025 23:29:10 JST david celis

GitHub straight up blocked a woman from the community org for writing this in the discussion about Grok in Copilot. The entire situation is growing exponentially more distasteful the longer they choose to censor rather than respond. This is just so, so shameful.
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1. A message posted by user @akiraveliara, which GitHub marked as "disruptive content" and hid: "For GitHub, a company which prides itself on supporting its developers, to collaborate with Elon Musk and his company, whose primary raison d'être is to provide an electronic nazi to his godforsaken platform as if there weren't too many of them to begin with, is, quite frankly, disgraceful. Elon Musk and his actions have threatened and are threatening the livelihoods of so many of us, all across the world, and I believe that every last one of us has a moral duty to oppose the spread of fascism in general and people along the lines of Elon Musk in specific, not to give them money to integrate their LLM. GitHub has already strained my, and judging by this thread many others', patience considerably with the entire copilot business. As far as I am concerned, copilot was unethical enough - training without consent on code people like myself upload to this platform with the intention to help other humans, and aggressively marketing and integrating it with other Microsoft products for questionable benefits, if any - but integrating Grok, which exhibits all these issues while also being built by a Nazi for the purposes of spreading Nazi propaganda on his Nazi platform, takes this disrespect of developers to a new level. May no grass grow on your pastures until the day MechaHitler has met the fate of its idol."
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  david celis (davidcelis@xoxo.zone)'s status on Saturday, 30-Aug-2025 23:35:56 JST david celis
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  don’t just repost this here; please speak out in the discussion itself. make your voice heard. make it clear that this support of Grok is unacceptable and that Aki should be unblocked https://github.com/orgs/community/discussions/171322
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    Why collaborate with xAI? · community · Discussion #171322
    
    Select Topic Area Product Feedback Copilot Feature Area Copilot Coding Agent Body GitHub, a company which supposedly values diversity, recently added Grok support to Copilot. Grok, an AI that calle...
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  Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 31-Aug-2025 00:47:00 JST Paul Cantrell
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  @davidcelis Thank you.
  My response (including screenshot in case they nuke it / me):
  https://github.com/orgs/community/discussions/171322#discussioncomment-14263534
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  2. GitHub’s business model asks an extraordinary amount of trust from its users. GitHub asks us to trust that it will keep private repos secret and safe. GitHub is guarding our trade secrets, our confidential data, our future product plans, our internal discussions. GitHub asks us to trust that it will keep public repos safe for participants, helping us fight off spammers, scammers, and harassers. That doesn’t just mean “you’re allowed to try to enforce community standards in your repos, good luck;” it means that GitHub as an organization must be actively invested in the idea of having community standards. We aren’t just choosing GitHub for its tech. We’re choosing GitHub for its people, its organizational good judgement, its trustworthiness.
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  3. My trust is gone. GitHub training LLMs on my public repos without my permission was already a gross breach of trust, and in my view a breach of most open source licenses. (LLMs regularly plagiarize chunks of code in ways that would clearly require inclusion of the license in the destination project if the same copying were done by a human.) Who knows what the courts will say about this, but the ethical line is clear regardless. I fully expect that GitHub will be training LLMs on my private repos as well, if it is not already doing so. (Who can tell? Microsoft has been suspiciously cagey on this point, and the answer will surely shift with the corporate winds.) Private repo LLM training is an unimaginable breach of trust — there is no way, none, for any of us to prevent leakage of confidential data from our private repos once this occurs — and I’m confident either is happening or soon will be. Now, on top of all that, I learn that GitHub is collaborating with real actual Nazis?!? And not just sad basement couch Nazis, which would be bad enough, but a Nazis whose first instinct when granted access to sensitive private data is illegal mass exfiltration to an insecure server?? No. Just no. Stop. Stop it. Bad Microsoft. No biscuit.
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  4. This isn’t just a matter of this one policy. It’s a matter of leadership. The modern software world is a giant web of trust — not just trust in code, but trust in people. No encryption algorithm or automated verification system can fully remove the need to trust the integrity and judgement of other human beings. I need to have trust not only in what the people of GitHub are doing right now, but in what they are temperamentally capable of doing in the future. And this? Last straw. Unless Microsoft puts proverbial heads on pikes over all this, I’m out. GitHub has breached the trust thermocline. I encourage them to pull out of the nosedive while they can, if they can. In the meantime, I am now actively seeking out way to move projects off of GitHub.
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    Why collaborate with xAI? · community · Discussion #171322
    
    Select Topic Area Product Feedback Copilot Feature Area Copilot Coding Agent Body GitHub, a company which supposedly values diversity, recently added Grok support to Copilot. Grok, an AI that calle...
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  Marsh Ray (marshray@infosec.exchange)'s status on Thursday, 04-Sep-2025 11:57:27 JST Marsh Ray
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  @davidcelis “May no grass grow on your pastures until the day MechaHitler has met the fate of its idol.”
  - Aliraveliara, 2025
  
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  david celis (davidcelis@xoxo.zone)'s status on Thursday, 04-Sep-2025 12:04:21 JST david celis
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  Internal sources saying she's literally the only user they've ever blocked in the community org. And for THAT??? Are you fucking kidding me
  
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  SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Friday, 05-Sep-2025 00:27:25 JST SuperDicq
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  @davidcelis@xoxo.zone Both Microsoft and Elon Musk are bad. What else is new?
  
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  SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Friday, 05-Sep-2025 00:29:04 JST SuperDicq
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  @davidcelis@xoxo.zone I mean you didn't but I just feel bad for this Aki person trying to reason with Microsoft instead of just simply deleting their account and moving on. And also the people below who are still commenting on Github.
  
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  david celis (davidcelis@xoxo.zone)'s status on Friday, 05-Sep-2025 00:29:05 JST david celis
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  @SuperDicq where did i say this was new
  
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  narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag: (hj@shigusegubu.club)'s status on Friday, 05-Sep-2025 00:33:28 JST narcolepsy and alcoholism :flag:
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  @SuperDicq @davidcelis network effect prevents deletion of accounts unless you create throwaway ones (effort).
  
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  SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Friday, 05-Sep-2025 00:33:30 JST SuperDicq
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  @davidcelis@xoxo.zone I personally don't think the refusal to use Github is nihilistic at all, I see that as activism.
  
  I mean if you want to post your comments about your dissatisfaction before you leave that's fine. But nothing in these post seem to point out that these people will actually delete their accounts after this.
  
  So I have the feeling that these people will just keep complaining while not actually doing the thing that hurts profit driven companies like Microsoft the most, the refusal to use their platforms.
  
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  david celis (davidcelis@xoxo.zone)'s status on Friday, 05-Sep-2025 00:33:31 JST david celis
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  @SuperDicq Why should it be “shut up and move on” instead of “speak out and move on”? i dont expect them to respond or change their decision, but im not gonna be all about that fatalistic nihilism.
  
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  SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Friday, 05-Sep-2025 00:53:32 JST SuperDicq
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  @davidcelis@xoxo.zone Cool. What will you be moving to? Codeberg is decent in my opinion.
  
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  david celis (davidcelis@xoxo.zone)'s status on Friday, 05-Sep-2025 00:53:34 JST david celis
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  @SuperDicq what i’m saying is that telling people to leave quietly without saying anything is nihilistic. i’ll be moving on and hope others will, but obviously many people won’t make the move. but for the people who do, i hope it’s not quietly.
  
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