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   Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 24-Aug-2025 06:20:02 JST Fish of Rage
   https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S019188692400415X
   
   Only 85 people per million are smart, thoughtful and emotionally stable
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     Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 24-Aug-2025 06:22:47 JST Fish of Rage

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     @Nudhul there's a study describing it. feel free to discount because it's metaanalysis though
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     Nudhul (nudhul@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 24-Aug-2025 06:22:48 JST Nudhul

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     @sun how are those things quantified?
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     Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 24-Aug-2025 06:50:07 JST Fish of Rage

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     @nuukaset @Nudhul I literally just said you could discount it
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     nuukaset (nuukaset@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 24-Aug-2025 06:50:09 JST nuukaset

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     @sun @Nudhul
     you trust the meta analysis over the studies lol
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     pwm (pwm@darkdork.dev)'s status on Sunday, 24-Aug-2025 06:55:00 JST pwm

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     • nuukaset
     @nuukaset @Nudhul @sun garbage in, garbage out
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     new me new me (lebronjames75@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 24-Aug-2025 06:55:56 JST new me new me

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     @sun the paper states actually the following: about 1 in 100 people are simultaneously quite smart, thoughtful, and emotionally stable people that are more than good enough for any task that isnt combined-brainsurgery-programming-rocketscience. 16% are not terrible in any of those measured and maybe-good at one or the other.
     
     85 out of a million (or, 0.0085%) are hyper-geniuses in two (only two) measured dimensions simultaneously. the study also takes extra effort for a full paragraph to state why the 0.0085% of people who score high standard deviations, can suffer as a direct result in X, Y and Z categories of skills, which may be undesireable for a specific type of job. It also states "out of 20 million people, an estimated 1 or less persons will be exceptional in all 3 categories"
     
     
     
     i will cast the heavy shade of doubt on the validity of those numbers, not that i think that they are wrong, but i am willing to bet that the simulations ran to get these numbers are flawed (as they are made with programming via ChatGPT, Claude and Perplexity). Knowing that a strong half+ of people who do this type of thing make the algorithms for their simulations just outright wrong, i press X to doubt the validity of this persons accuracy in their simulations and formulas (again, not that i dont believe that these numbers cant be real, or arent real, i just doubt the skill of the person writing the paper)
     
     i have seen and i have heard of the retardedness of bad formulas inside published science papers and the production of science papers, and that distrust of potential incompetence is embedded deep inside me.
     
     Also the simulation was only run once with a set random seed of 123, which shouldnt be an issue, but again im afraid that it might be an issue. Running it with different seeds, maybe it gives, instead of 85 people of ultra exceptionality, 120 people. Unfortunately no time to verify this or the code that is there to check, nor willing to. The ballpark would remain the same, but the range of potential answers might shift significantly with the added knowledge of multiple ran simulations.
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     Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 24-Aug-2025 06:56:13 JST Fish of Rage

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     @lebronjames75 I don't trust meta-analyses by default anyway but I like posting provocative things that when exposed erode trust in academia
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     Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 24-Aug-2025 06:59:22 JST Fish of Rage

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     @lebronjames75 btw if you have worked with scientists:
     
     > During the preparation of this work the author used ChatGPT, Claude, and Perplexity to help with the generation of R scripts
     
     ChatGPT is better at programming than scientists are tbh
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     jeff (sane) (jeff@mk.magicka.org)'s status on Sunday, 24-Aug-2025 07:06:00 JST jeff (sane)

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     @lebronjames75@shitposter.world @sun@shitposter.world i'm the jeff that made an onion routing protocol just to torrent muh anime shows

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     jeff (sane) (jeff@mk.magicka.org)'s status on Sunday, 24-Aug-2025 07:06:03 JST jeff (sane)

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     @sun@shitposter.world @lebronjames75@shitposter.world dude academics fucking suck at software

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     @jeff @sun every time i see your name i freak out for 0.2 seconds on why you arent jeff cliff
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     new me new me (lebronjames75@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 24-Aug-2025 07:08:34 JST new me new me

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     @sun completely irrelevant that the AI is better at programming than them; its not about the program working or not, its about the algorithm being accurate and spewing the correct answer in the end, and that is fully decided by the scientist (which, as stated before, is very incompetent at this actually)
     
     they have NO fucking idea about the intricate details of complex programming formulas, and i feel you dont have an idea about how much of an idea they dont have. They WILL prompt wrong, they WILL not test the outputs, they WILL not realize the output is not what it should be
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     Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 24-Aug-2025 07:08:34 JST Fish of Rage

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     @lebronjames75 when I say bad at programming I don't mean they name their variables x and y and z, I mean they are so bad at programming that they get the wrong results. It is not uncommon at all
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     Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 24-Aug-2025 07:10:47 JST Fish of Rage

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     @lebronjames75 many scientists don't even understand statistics and you can invalidate studies on that fact alone
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     new me new me (lebronjames75@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 24-Aug-2025 07:10:48 JST new me new me

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     @sun i understood
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Sunday, 24-Aug-2025 07:13:24 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @sun we need massive depopulation and ETHNOGLOBE NOW
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Sunday, 24-Aug-2025 07:14:05 JST Johnny Peligro

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     • nuukaset
     @Nudhul @nuukaset @sun dalit?
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     Nudhul (nudhul@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 24-Aug-2025 07:14:06 JST Nudhul

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     @nuukaset @sun *you're* an indian
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     nuukaset (nuukaset@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 24-Aug-2025 07:14:07 JST nuukaset

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     @Nudhul @sun depends on the paper.
     also whats the relevance of that question here? if you pulled that out of your ass just to piss me off im gonna tell everyone on here youre a indian.
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     Nudhul (nudhul@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 24-Aug-2025 07:14:08 JST Nudhul

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     @nuukaset @sun why would anyone trust a study that's come out in the past 40 years?
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     new me new me (lebronjames75@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 24-Aug-2025 07:14:52 JST new me new me

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     @mischievoustomato @sun TOTAL SUB-2-MD POPULATION DEATH
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Sunday, 24-Aug-2025 07:15:21 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @lebronjames75 @sun i dont even know what md is
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     Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 24-Aug-2025 07:18:06 JST Fish of Rage

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     @lebronjames75 I actually wondered how long it will take for people criticizing the study to say that IQ has no validity (it does)
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     new me new me (lebronjames75@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 24-Aug-2025 07:18:07 JST new me new me

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     @sun slightly related: i just started to wonder what my IQ was according to the Mensa IQ online practice-test, (used to be some 140 but lol if you learn programming and can rotate cows in your head then you can get this number)
     
     the website for mensa IQ is sub 75 IQ and that pissed me off, and i aint using no unstandard screen resolution. frustration station and shit web design
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     new me new me (lebronjames75@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 24-Aug-2025 07:26:00 JST new me new me

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     • Johnny Peligro
     @mischievoustomato @sun meant to say sd, standard deviation
     2 standard deviations of deviation from the center average point, though i didnt specify in which direction
     
     which translates to roughly 5% of a group when there is only one variable to standard deviate twice from (or more), and ~ i forgot, i think like 0.0125%? when there are 3 variables (like in this science paper)
     
     theres also a super gaping flaw in the title of the paper which makes it super clickbaity
     
     que sera, sera
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     @lebronjames75 @sun i got 50 on an online iq test, which side am i on
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     @mischievoustomato @sun youll be safe
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     @lebronjames75 @sun ay caramba
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     @mischievoustomato @sun dont worry about it snookums :>
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     @lebronjames75 @sun ok i dont know what snookum is or does or means
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     GNU+ullard (ullard@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 24-Aug-2025 09:35:33 JST GNU+ullard

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     @sun "choose two"
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     @sun @lebronjames75 In general I'm against using LLM code for anything substantial but good fucking God, physicists are so bad at programming that vibe coding everything would actually be an improvement
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     nuukaset (nuukaset@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 24-Aug-2025 17:35:12 JST nuukaset

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     @mischievoustomato @Nudhul @sun this is funny coming from a coloured mezito.
     do the needful and call me your brahmin master you low caste quadroon spaniard
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     @nuukaset @Nudhul @sun dalit