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   mhoye (mhoye@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 21-Aug-2025 18:40:31 JST mhoye

   I'ts not just vibe coding; SAAS has just destroyed people's ideas of how fast computers are or what anything costs.

   I'm in a... somewhat awkward conversation in a different forum where people are talking about a database migration that's "millions of rows" and "as many as 57k transactions month" and I'm sitting here thinking, ok so on average a transaction every 40 seconds or so, have you considered putting it on an SD card and mailing it.

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     GreenSkyOverMe (Monika) (greenskyoverme@ohai.social)'s status on Thursday, 21-Aug-2025 18:43:40 JST GreenSkyOverMe (Monika)

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     @mhoye Millions of rows is kind of the lower limit of anything I deal with … as long as the migration is done with database tools, not with APIs that trigger validations, this should be done really quickly

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     mhoye (mhoye@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 22-Aug-2025 08:30:53 JST mhoye

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     “So, do you have a _database_ or do you have a table that happens to be stored in a database” is not a question that makes you friends with CTOs it turns out.

     (It’s a table that happens to be stored in a database.)

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 22-Aug-2025 08:34:04 JST Rich Felker

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     • Colman Reilly

     @Colman @mhoye At least it's only "hundreds per month". I'd expect thousands or tens of thousands for AWS. 🙃

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     Colman Reilly (colman@mastodon.ie)'s status on Friday, 22-Aug-2025 08:34:06 JST Colman Reilly

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     @mhoye I'm dealing with a system with a full AWS deployment costing hundreds per month for maybe 250 transactions a day.

     It's a booking system for four small sites.

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     Andrew Drake (adrake@sfba.social)'s status on Friday, 22-Aug-2025 08:35:54 JST Andrew Drake

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     @mhoye we had a vendor that our data team was using for replicating our databases. Super expensive, and with a pricing model clearly (to me) unrelated to their actual costs. This came to my attention about a month before we were supposed to renew our annual contract.

     In that month I replaced them with some Rust that was an exact drop-in, but faster, with a couple of new features we had long wanted, and literally *two orders of magnitude* less cost. Hundreds of thousands a year to less than two thousand. The compute now easily fits on a laptop, but it does benefit from a local network connection to the database 😉

     Their CEO was pissed we were leaving (because they had already given us a big discount) and absolutely certain there was no way we could possibly do it cheaper, and that we'd come crawling back. Given the obvious insanity of that position, my only explanation is he was drinking his own SaaS pricing Kool-aid.

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     neel chauhan (neel@social.monoxide.network)'s status on Friday, 22-Aug-2025 08:39:08 JST neel chauhan

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     @mhoye I worked at Microsoft for five years. IT departments are as prone to consumerism as mere mortals are.
     
     MS 365 is incredibly slow and unreliable. My self-hosted Postfix/Dovecot is faster and more reliable by a large margin.
     
     Yet IT is told they "need" 365 to "save money" when all it does is enrich MS partners.
     
     Same with "Big Data". People were told they need Hadoop and DataBricks when all they need is Excel or sed/awk.