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    :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄 (bonifartius@qoto.org)'s status on Sunday, 17-Aug-2025 18:09:59 JST :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄 :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄

    i really have issues with trusting people since the covid fascism episode, and maybe THAT was the real psyop.

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      lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Sunday, 17-Aug-2025 18:30:35 JST lainy lainy
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      EvolLove (evollove@noauthority.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Aug-2025 18:30:36 JST EvolLove EvolLove
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      @bonifartius

      The real psyop started earlier than that

      In fact much much earlier

      U have been brainwashed from the day U were born

      Take how U failed to use Fascism in a sentence for example

      Fascists banned foreign anti-nationalist propaganda, pedophile and pornographic art
      To protect the nation from the mass murder fate of Russia

      Thus Communism the most Anti-National foreign propaganda was banned

      Fascism is not what we have been brainwashed to think it was

      That's a psyop for U.

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      :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄 (bonifartius@qoto.org)'s status on Sunday, 17-Aug-2025 18:30:36 JST :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄 :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄
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      @EvolLove fascism is the unity of state and industry which pretty accurately describes what happened.

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      :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄 (bonifartius@qoto.org)'s status on Sunday, 17-Aug-2025 18:49:51 JST :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄 :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄
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      • EvolLove

      @taylan @lain @EvolLove honestly, fuck off.

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      Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged) (taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org)'s status on Sunday, 17-Aug-2025 18:49:53 JST Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged) Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged)
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      @lain @EvolLove @bonifartius

      > Vaccine proven completely safe
      > Significantly reduces risk of severe illness
      > You get it literally for free
      > You're free to refuse it, you just have to stay out of certain enclosed public spaces for a couple months
      > A couple retards on social media post edgy shit about people who refuse it
      > The only actual case of serious violence is from the anti-vax side

      Yeah man it's Literally 1984.
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      England Lives (thatbrickster@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 17-Aug-2025 18:56:49 JST England Lives England Lives
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      • Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged)
      • EvolLove
      @taylan I was studying on an NHS course at the time and they made us take it. If we refused it, we were kicked off the course and could not graduate. We also needed to have COVID passes in order to be on the right side of the two-tier society that was created as a result of lockdowns.

      The shots were free at point of delivery, but Pfizer et al. were charging increasingly exorbitant prices to governments (i.e. taxpayers) around the world in order to buy millions of shots at a time, mostly for people who didn't need it. We also sent millions of shots to Africa but, because they didn't have the infrastructure to use them effectively, most of them expired.

      Don't get me wrong. At the time, I was concerned about long COVID. After the first two shots I was happy to stop, but because I had a vulnerable family member who was pressuring me to wear masks and do the usual, I took a third and got a headache from it. I then proceeded to get the real deal and outright refused to take shots, even when pressured by other family members.

      What annoys me the most is people like you gaslighting and revising what actually happened five years ago. I may regret taking these shots based on what I now know, but I will not tolerate people who explain historical events in a way that didn't happen and pass it off as reality. I was at an especially vulnerable moment in my life back then. That's how I can remember it so vividly.

      @lain @EvolLove @bonifartius
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      KeepTakingTheSoma (keeptakingthesoma@spinster.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 17-Aug-2025 21:25:45 JST KeepTakingTheSoma KeepTakingTheSoma
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      @bonifartius A little scepticism and healthy boundaries will go a long way.
      Someone asked me what lessons I'd learned from lockdown and I told then that I now knew who the police informers were.
      This is the age of new and better friends.
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      KeepTakingTheSoma (keeptakingthesoma@spinster.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 17-Aug-2025 22:01:58 JST KeepTakingTheSoma KeepTakingTheSoma
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      • Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged)
      • EvolLove
      @lain @EvolLove @bonifartius @taylan

      The jabs were far from safe. All the companies were given immunity from prosecution.
      https://off-guardian.org/2021/02/22/synthetic-mrna-covid-vaccines-a-risk-benefit-analysis/

      They never reduced any risk of illness or prevented the spread.
      https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/yes-the-vaccines-were-supposed-to

      It was not free because some companies were subsidised (or mysteriously *knew* this was an areas to develop in advance) to develop them and then sold them and many people got extremely rich.
      https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/08/big-pharma-global-vaccine-rollout-covid-pfizer

      Nobody was *forced* (ie held down forcibly) but there was plenty of coercion in the form of threats of job loss, reputational damage etc. https://off-guardian.org/2021/06/25/canadian-surgeon-fired-for-voicing-safety-concerns-over-covid-jabs-for-children/

      The *couple of retards* included almost all media, celebrity and political figures in a concerted effort to shame anyone who wouldn't comply.
      https://www.gov.uk/government/news/leading-social-media-platforms-unite-to-support-covid-19-vaccine-drive

      I'm not aware of any violence from *the anti-vax side* unless you count sarcastic social media posts and holding placards. as violence (here I am at a peaceful protest in all my glory thinking evil anti-vax thoughts).

      Orwell's work was meant to be a warning, not an instruction manual. But by all means you are free to pretend that the events of 2020 onwards didn't happen they way they did (and if they did it wasn't as bad as we remember, and if it was as bad as we remember then it was for a good reason, and if it wasn't for a good reason then we didn't know everything and we've learned from the mistakes, and maybe it was the best for us to be treated like cattle by the kakistocracy etc etc etc).

      "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book has been rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street and building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And that process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped."
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        Synthetic mRNA Covid vaccines: A Risk-Benefit Analysis
        from Editor
        With a “vaccine” based on untested technology, and safety trials still ongoing, is it safe to take the shot? And does it even work? And does a disease with an IFR of 0.2% even justify that risk?…
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        yes, the vaccines were supposed to stop covid spread. yes, the "experts" told us so.
        from el gato malo
        adventures in revisionist history
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        Putting big pharma in charge of global vaccine rollout was a big mistake | Nick Dearden
        from https://www.theguardian.com/profile/nick-dearden
        Covid has made it clear: the likes of Pfizer, in thrall to shareholders, only really care about their huge profits, says the director of Global Justice Now
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        Canadian surgeon FIRED for voicing safety concerns over Covid jabs for children
        from Kit Knightly
        Dr Francis Christian, practising surgeon and clinical professor of general surgery at the University of Saskatchewan, has been immediately suspended from all teaching and will be permanently remove…
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        Leading social media platforms unite to support COVID-19 vaccine drive
        Snapchat, Reddit, TikTok and YouTube have partnered with the government to encourage users to get the vaccine.
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      KeepTakingTheSoma (keeptakingthesoma@spinster.xyz)'s status on Monday, 18-Aug-2025 03:28:50 JST KeepTakingTheSoma KeepTakingTheSoma
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      • Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged)
      • EvolLove
      @taylan @lain @EvolLove @bonifartius I can't find that story. Can you send me a link, please. Thanks.
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      Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged) (taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org)'s status on Monday, 18-Aug-2025 03:28:52 JST Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged) Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged)
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      @KeepTakingTheSoma @lain @EvolLove @bonifartius

      A young gas station cashier got shot in the head here in Germany by a "COVID skeptic" because he was told to wear a mask. Conspiracy theories really make some people turn into insane lunatics.
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      • EvolLove
      @taylan @lain @EvolLove @bonifartius Thank you.
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      Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged) (taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org)'s status on Monday, 18-Aug-2025 05:52:33 JST Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged) Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged)
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      @KeepTakingTheSoma @lain @EvolLove @bonifartius

      You can just put "gas station man shot in germany covid mask" into DuckDuckGo or something and there will be about a dozen English articles:

      https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mario-n-convicted-killing-gas-station-clerk-covid-face-mask-rules-germany/
      https://www.dw.com/en/germany-gas-station-employee-killed-over-a-face-mask/a-59244387
      https://www.foxnews.com/us/german-gas-station-clerk-murdered-man-wouldnt-wear-covid-mask
      https://www.vice.com/en/article/man-shoots-cashier-dead-after-being-refused-service-for-not-wearing-a-face-mask/
      https://abcnews.go.com/International/20-year-gas-station-cashier-germany-fatally-shot/story?id=80144564
      https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/22/europe/germany-man-killed-mask-intl-scli-grm/index.html
      https://apnews.com/article/shootings-germany-0090fdef53bcdd0b7095f30c1e7ec35b
      https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/21/world/germany-coronovirus-shooting-covid.html
      https://www.newsweek.com/german-official-blames-social-media-hatred-clerks-death-after-asking-man-wear-mask-1631712

      (All refer to the same story. Pick your favorite news outlet. :blobcat-joy: )
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        German man convicted, given life sentence for killing gas station clerk following a dispute over face masks
        "No matter what the verdict was ... it was never going to bring my child back," the victim's mother said.
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        German gas station worker killed over face mask – DW – 09/20/2021
        A 20-year-old clerk was shot after asking a customer to wear a face mask in Germany. The suspected shooter said he was stressed out by coronavirus measures.
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        German gas station clerk murdered after refusing service to man who wouldn't wear COVID mask
        from Bradford Betz
        A gas station clerk in Germany was murdered Saturday after refusing service to a man who wouldn’t wear a face mask during the COVID-19 pandemic.
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        Man Shoots Cashier Dead After Being Refused Service for Not Wearing a Face Mask
        from VICE
        The shooting has sparked concerns over the radicalisation of those opposed to COVID restrictions in Germany.
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        20-year-old gas station cashier in Germany fatally shot by anti-masker: Police
        from ABC News
        The cashier was fatally shot after telling a customer to put on a face covering Saturday, police said.
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        Germans shocked by killing of cashier after Covid mask argument | CNN
        from Reuters
        German politicians expressed shock on Tuesday over the killing of a 20-year old gas station worker after an argument about a face mask and said that coronavirus deniers who are willing to use violence will not be tolerated.
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        German man convicted of murder after killing over mask rules
        A German man has been convicted of murder and given a life sentence for fatally shooting a young gas station clerk following a dispute over face masks.

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        German Official Blames Online Hatred for Clerk Killed Over Mask Mandate
        "This has a lot to do with the incitement, the hatred, that is posted on social media," Health Minister Jens Spahn said of the killing.
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      KeepTakingTheSoma (keeptakingthesoma@spinster.xyz)'s status on Monday, 18-Aug-2025 06:00:58 JST KeepTakingTheSoma KeepTakingTheSoma
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      • Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged)
      • EvolLove
      @taylan @lain @EvolLove @bonifartius Just awful. There is no excuse for this.
      I was refused service in many shops for not wearing a mask and I would never have considered causing harm to anyone. I simply walked away, even if people were rude or aggressive.
      It is especially dreadful as we know that masks never worked but were imposed to create a climate of fear. All this division created in societies across the world to make the self-appointed elite class even richer.
      It sickens me.
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      Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged) (taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Aug-2025 01:13:24 JST Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged) Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged)
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      It's difficult to study rigorously, but it appears that most evidence is in favour of masks.
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      • Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged)
      • EvolLove
      @taylan @lain @EvolLove @bonifartius I'm afraid not.

      "limited evidence"
      https://www.cfp.ca/content/66/7/509

      "no significant effect"
      https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article

      "unlikely to be protective"
      https://swprs.org/face-masks-evidence/

      "failed to provide definitive evidence"
      https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0240287

      They also cause damage to our health and the planet:

      https://off-guardian.org/2020/11/06/face-masks-a-danger-to-our-planet-our-children-ourselves/

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-56972074

      https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/news/2022/august/pandemic-face-masks-could-harm-wildlife-for-years-to-come.html

      I never confronted anyone who wore one, nor did I ever see anyone else do that. I was confronted by mask wearers and also saw this happen to other people. Wearing a mask was a choice and I believe that adults should be able to choose for themselves.
      The initial response was that they do not work, but this very quickly pivoted to compulsory behaviour. I believe that mask wearing was chosen as an easily identifiable marker of compliance.
      My views do not excuse the behaviour of the man in the news article you kindly sent to me and I totally condemn his actions and hope he is in prison for murder.

      The picture is from a box of such masks.
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        Nonpharmaceutical Measures for Pandemic Influenza in Nonhealthcare Settings—Personal Protective and Environmental Measures
        Pandemic Influenza—Personal Protective Measures

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        Masks for prevention of viral respiratory infections among health care workers and the public
        Objective To determine the effect of mask use on viral respiratory infection risk. Data sources MEDLINE and the Cochrane Library. Study selection Randomized controlled trials (RCTs) included in at least 1 published systematic review comparing the use of masks with a control group, either in community or health care settings, on the risk of viral respiratory infections. Synthesis In total, 11 systematic reviews were included and 18 RCTs of 26 444 participants were found, 12 in the community and 6 in health care workers. Included studies had limitations and were deemed at high risk of bias. Overall, the use of masks in the community did not reduce the risk of influenza, confirmed viral respiratory infection, influenzalike illness, or any clinical respiratory infection. However, in the 2 trials that most closely aligned with mask use in real-life community settings, there was a significant risk reduction in influenzalike illness (risk ratio [RR] = 0.83; 95% CI 0.69 to 0.99). The use of masks in households with a sick contact was not associated with a significant infection risk reduction in any analysis, no matter if masks were used by the sick individual, the healthy family members, or both. In health care workers, surgical masks were superior to cloth masks for preventing influenzalike illness (RR = 0.12; 95% CI 0.02 to 0.98), and N95 masks were likely superior to surgical masks for preventing influenzalike illness (RR = 0.78; 95% CI 0.61 to 1.00) and any clinical respiratory infections (RR = 0.95; 95% CI 0.90 to 1.00). Conclusion This systematic review found limited evidence that the use of masks might reduce the risk of viral respiratory infections. In the community setting, a possible reduced risk of influenzalike illness was found among mask users. In health care workers, the results show no difference between N95 masks and surgical masks on the risk of confirmed influenza or other confirmed viral respiratory infections, although possible benefits from N95 masks were found for preventing influenzalike illness or other clinical respiratory infections. Surgical masks might be superior to cloth masks but data are limited to 1 trial.
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        Are Face Masks Effective? The Evidence.
        from Swiss Policy Research
        An overview of the current evidence regarding the effectiveness of face masks.
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        Facemask against viral respiratory infections among Hajj pilgrims: A challenging cluster-randomized trial
        Background In this large-scale cluster-randomized controlled trial (cRCT) we sought to assess the effectiveness of facemasks against viral respiratory infections. Methods and results Over three consecutive Hajj seasons (2013, 2014, 2015) pilgrims’ tents in Makkah were allocated to ‘facemask’ or ‘no facemask’ group. Fifty facemasks were offered to participants in intervention tents, to be worn over four days, and none were offered to participants in control tents. All participants recorded facemask use and respiratory symptoms in health diaries. Nasal swabs were collected from the symptomatic for virus detection by reverse transcription polymerase chain reaction. Clinical symptoms and laboratory results were analyzed by ‘intention- to-treat’ and ‘per-protocol’. A total of 7687 adult participants from 318 tents were randomized: 3864 from 149 tents to the intervention group, and 3823 from 169 tents to the control group. Participants were aged 18 to 95 (median 34, mean 37) years, with a male to female ratio of 1:1.2. Overall, respiratory viruses were detected in 277 of 650 (43%) nasal/pharyngeal swabs collected from symptomatic pilgrims. Common viruses were rhinovirus (35.1%), influenza (4.5%) and parainfluenza (1.7%). In the intervention arm, respectively 954 (24.7%) and 1842 (47.7%) participants used facemasks daily and intermittently, while in the control arm, respectively 546 (14.3%) and 1334 (34.9%) used facemasks daily and intermittently. By intention-to-treat analysis, facemask use did not seem to be effective against laboratory-confirmed viral respiratory infections (odds ratio [OR], 1.4; 95% confidence interval [CI], 0.9 to 2.1, p = 0.18) nor against clinical respiratory infection (OR, 1.1; 95% CI, 0.9 to 1.4, p = 0.40). Similarly, in a per-protocol analysis, facemask use did not seem to be effective against laboratory-confirmed viral respiratory infections (OR 1.2, 95% CI 0.9–1.7, p = 0.26) nor against clinical respiratory infection (OR 1.3, 95% CI 1.0–1.8, p = 0.06). Conclusion This trial was unable to provide conclusive evidence on facemask efficacy against viral respiratory infections most likely due to poor adherence to protocol.
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        Face Masks: A Danger to Our Planet, Our Children & Ourselves
        from Editor
        Cory Morningstar It seems like only yesterday that a massive campaign against single-use plastic straws was trending. The much forgotten anti-straw trend was based on astronomical numbers; a sugges…
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        Covid: Disposable masks pose pollutants risk, study finds
        Throw-away Covid face coverings could be polluting the environment with heavy metals and plastic.
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        Pandemic face masks could harm wildlife for years to come | Natural History Museum
        The protective equipment that kept us safe from COVID-19 could pose a lethal threat to nature.
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      @KeepTakingTheSoma @lain @EvolLove @bonifartius

      "Limited evidence" is meant literally, not as a negative. It's basically one step above "no evidence." To quote your own first source:

      > In the community setting, a possible reduced risk of influenzalike illness was found among mask users.
      > In observational studies, wearing masks is associated with a lower risk of contracting viral respiratory infections.

      The disclaimer on the mask box could simply be to ward off complaints.

      Given that wearing a mask causes barely any inconvenience at all, I don't see an issue with mandating their use in enclosed spaces, based on *potential* benefits despite lack of clear evidence.

      It's a bit like the seat belt mandate. Maybe you only ever drive very carefully at max. 20 Mph / 30 Kmh to the grocery store down two blocks, but you still have to wear the seat belt every time because it's easier to just mandate it for everyone in all cases than to figure out the exact scenarios in which it's really beneficial and try to encode that into precise rules.

      > I believe that mask wearing was chosen as an easily identifiable marker of compliance.

      Can you elaborate on what exactly you mean by that?
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      • EvolLove
      @taylan @lain @EvolLove @bonifartius I disagree that mask wearing causes barely any inconvenience.
      It was a massive imposition on our lives. It was especially egregious to claim that non-compliance was a social failing. But that was the point.
      I have already set you links to how they pollute the environment, contain microplastics, impair breathing, delay development in children and how it even says on the box that they don't work.
      They have had years and years to come up with data to prove that masks work, and yet they haven't. As soon as enough evidence comes in that they do, then we shall see. You could be hit on the head by falling debris from aircraft. Be prepared to wear a hard hat for the rest of your life. Better still, demand that everyone wear a hard hat to keep you safe from falling debris.

      Seatbelts are a poor analogy. There is clear data about the reduction in death when seatbelts are used. I'm old enough to remember the time before mandatory seatbelts. Seatbelts only protect the wearer (except in the car when a back seat passenger not wearing a seatbelt could cause death to the person sitting immediately in front which can be dealt with by those travelling in the car); my not wearing a seatbelt will have no effect whatsoever on other road users.

      Mask wearing was sold as a *I wear my mask to protect you* as was *vaccination* which is clearly false. It was a marketing tool to promote uniformity of thought. It was an Asch Conformity Test across the globe. An Abilene Paradox. A virtue signal. I don't need to pretend to care or tell the world how much I care to actually do no harm and go about my life in peace. We were herded like cattle. I'm not cattle.

      This is what I mean by the identifiable marker. It was a way of seeing at a glance who was being a Good German.
      https://off-guardian.org/2023/02/15/face-masks-medical-protection-or-badge-of-obedience/

      If you want to believe that mask wearing really did save lives because you invested time and energy complying or you believed what you were told by the MSM and various celebrities, politicians, and bought and paid for credentialed *academics* then I won't stop you. You can wear them every day for the rest of your life if it makes you feel better. You're a grown up and you can make your own decisions. You can shout about how stupid I am or that I'm a conspiracy theorist or covidiot or tin foil hat wearer or evil anti-vaxxer or whatever you want. I've heard it all. If I do *die suddenly* from not wearing a mask/having a *vaccine*/not dancing on ticktock/ not clapping for the NHS during (insert new *plandemic* here) then it will be my choice and you are free to dance on my grave and sing "I told you so" with all the glee you can muster.

      I've told you my views. Go well.
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        Face masks –Medical Protection, or Badge of Obedience?
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        Martin Hanson I don’t normally watch TVNZ’s Seven Sharp, but on 5th October 2021 we were told that an immunologist would be on the programme to debunk certain ‘Covid myths’. One such ‘myth’ was the…
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