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   Vinnewed Goblin (warmbeverageenjoyer@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 08-Aug-2025 05:09:47 JST Vinnewed Goblin
   does sitting behind something like Mullvad actually do anything for you other than give you a false sense of security?
   
   i'm really asking
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     the_daikon_warfare (sicp@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 08-Aug-2025 05:09:35 JST the_daikon_warfare

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     • Veinglory
     @wowaname @veinglory @warmbeverageenjoyer I use POP because I'm an honest, god-fearing christian. It's the "Peace Outreach Protocol". The only people I ever see use IMAP are child molesters. They don't call it I-"MAP" for nothing.
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     opal (wowaname@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 08-Aug-2025 05:09:36 JST opal

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     • the_daikon_warfare
     • Veinglory
     @sicp @veinglory @warmbeverageenjoyer spoken by you, yes
     pwm repeated this.
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     the_daikon_warfare (sicp@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 08-Aug-2025 05:09:38 JST the_daikon_warfare

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     • opal
     • Veinglory
     @wowaname @veinglory @warmbeverageenjoyer lies
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     opal (wowaname@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 08-Aug-2025 05:09:39 JST opal

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     • the_daikon_warfare
     • Veinglory
     @sicp @veinglory @warmbeverageenjoyer what in the shit is this misinformation? imap supports downloading *in addition to* sync across devices. it's a direct improvement to pop.
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     the_daikon_warfare (sicp@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 08-Aug-2025 05:09:40 JST the_daikon_warfare

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     • Veinglory
     @veinglory @warmbeverageenjoyer also use POP instead of IMAP, "they" don't want you to download your mail
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     Veinglory (veinglory@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 08-Aug-2025 05:09:43 JST Veinglory

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     @warmbeverageenjoyer Depends. I am an insane person, so I containerize my identities based on my threat/privacy level. Gmail to interact with normies (always seem normal to normal people), Protonmail for semi-secure stuff that still needs to look professional, and cock.li / 10minutemail for registration/verification.
     
     privacytools.io has a couple others IIRC but remember that nobody is going to prison to keep your emails encrypted and you can't know for certain what their backend looks like. Secure mail with PGP, but remember that state agencies hang people on metadata, so if you're doing seriously sensitive correspondence, you shouldn't be using email to begin with.
     
     keep a password safe and use unique several dozen character passwords for everything because databases leak all the time (cock.li had a database leak recently due to a webmail vulnerability I believe).
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     Vinnewed Goblin (warmbeverageenjoyer@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 08-Aug-2025 05:09:44 JST Vinnewed Goblin

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     • Veinglory
     @veinglory that makes sense; thank you
     the curse of convenience strikes deep, here
     
     by the way; what email provider do you use, if you don't mind sharing?
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     Veinglory (veinglory@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 08-Aug-2025 05:09:45 JST Veinglory

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     @warmbeverageenjoyer sorry i haven't had coffee yet. I should have said something like "identity isolation". Preventing fingerprinting by not risking cross contamination of identifying information. Doesn't matter how many proxies you're behind if a database leaks and you're using the same email address everywhere.
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     Vinnewed Goblin (warmbeverageenjoyer@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 08-Aug-2025 05:09:46 JST Vinnewed Goblin

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     • Veinglory
     @veinglory virtualization? How would that work in this context?
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     Veinglory (veinglory@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 08-Aug-2025 05:09:47 JST Veinglory

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     @warmbeverageenjoyer depends on your threat model.
     
     Hardened browsers and some sorry of virtualization are usually necessary too if you want to prevent fingerprinting by strong actors
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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Friday, 08-Aug-2025 05:15:50 JST Phantasm

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     • opal
     • the_daikon_warfare
     • Veinglory
     @sicp @wowaname @veinglory @warmbeverageenjoyer They don't want you to know this, but you can download email with IMAP. It's free.
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