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    kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Sunday, 27-Jul-2025 07:06:32 JST kaia kaia
    I just understood that the government forcing people to pay taxes is the foundation of the monetary system, with the money given out by the government being debt they incur and taxpayers paying back that debt.
    In conversation about 7 days ago from brotka.st permalink
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      lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Sunday, 27-Jul-2025 12:05:06 JST lainy lainy
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      @kaia Kaia no, don’t read MMT
      In conversation about 7 days ago permalink
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      p (p@raru.re)'s status on Sunday, 27-Jul-2025 16:47:31 JST p p
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      fiat has no value
      @kaia

      In conversation about 7 days ago permalink
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      mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius: (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 27-Jul-2025 16:47:33 JST mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius: mangeurdenuage :gnu: :trisquel: :gondola_head: 🌿 :abeshinzo: :ignucius:
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      @kaia Yes but those were mainly started because of war. If I dopn't mistake taxes in France after the revolution for example started to fund Napoleonic wars/campaigns. And they never stopped since. Same for the USA, it started in WW1or 2.
      In conversation about 7 days ago permalink
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      Oblomov (oblomov@sociale.network)'s status on Sunday, 27-Jul-2025 16:48:36 JST Oblomov Oblomov
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      @kaia that's literally why money was invented in the first place, which is why nations that were built in a different mechanism (eg corvées) never or barely developed the concept of money, although the two can be applied together, see e.g.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mit%27a

      In conversation about 7 days ago permalink
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      kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Sunday, 27-Jul-2025 16:49:19 JST kaia kaia
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      • lainy
      @lain is MMT bad? it did sound congruent for fiat with no intrinsic value
      In conversation about 7 days ago permalink
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      Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Sunday, 27-Jul-2025 16:59:03 JST Hoss Delgado Hoss Delgado
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      Congrats, this is a redpill too hard for most normies to swallow, let alone foids.
      In conversation about 7 days ago permalink
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      ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Sunday, 27-Jul-2025 17:00:54 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:
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      @Hoss @kaia Tell kaia to unblock anni
      In conversation about 7 days ago permalink
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      Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Sunday, 27-Jul-2025 17:01:47 JST Hoss Delgado Hoss Delgado
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      • lainy
      MMT is bad, but it's also the natural end-state of all fiat monetary systems. Thankfully, it's unsustainable. One day, economic Truths will reassert themselves whether people are ready for it or not.
      In conversation about 7 days ago permalink
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      Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Sunday, 27-Jul-2025 17:02:51 JST Hoss Delgado Hoss Delgado
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      Kaia, annihilation.social respectfully requests refederation.
      In conversation about 7 days ago permalink
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      Arkana (arkana@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 27-Jul-2025 17:03:47 JST Arkana Arkana
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      • Hoss Delgado
      @Hoss @kaia It wasn't always that way
      In conversation about 7 days ago permalink

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      Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Sunday, 27-Jul-2025 17:06:58 JST Hoss Delgado Hoss Delgado
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      • Arkana
      Notice how capital gains isn't even on the chart, that's how insignificant it is.
      In conversation about 7 days ago permalink
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      Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Sunday, 27-Jul-2025 17:08:35 JST Hoss Delgado Hoss Delgado
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      • Oblomov
      >which is why nations that were built in a different mechanism (eg corvées) never or barely developed the concept of money
      They also never developed the concept of civilization. Like it or not, money is the only way you can grow a functional society beyond ~100 individuals.
      In conversation about 7 days ago permalink
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      Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Sunday, 27-Jul-2025 17:13:04 JST Hoss Delgado Hoss Delgado
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      • LordOfTheKangs
      When are the award ceremoni(es)?
      In conversation about 7 days ago permalink
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      LordOfTheKangs (lordofthekangs@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 27-Jul-2025 17:13:05 JST LordOfTheKangs LordOfTheKangs
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      • Oblomov
      @Hoss @oblomov @kaia You're going to be on ADLs antisemite of the week list and the SPLCs racist of the week list. On the same week.
      Stop noticing things 😏
      In conversation about 7 days ago permalink
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      :ihavenomouth: (inginsub@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 27-Jul-2025 17:15:26 JST :ihavenomouth: :ihavenomouth:
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      • Hoss Delgado
      @Hoss @kaia @lain monopoly money theory
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      Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Sunday, 27-Jul-2025 17:17:27 JST Hoss Delgado Hoss Delgado
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      • lainy
      Magic Money Tree
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      御園はくい (hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info)'s status on Sunday, 27-Jul-2025 18:38:34 JST 御園はくい 御園はくい
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      @kaia yes that's how fiat is supposed to work

      unfortunately governments keep on adding to that debt and the people no longer have any hope of paying it off
      In conversation about 7 days ago permalink
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