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   myrmepropagandist (futurebird@sauropods.win)'s status on Saturday, 19-Jul-2025 10:47:51 JST myrmepropagandist

   How can we get more people talking about the inevitable consequences of forcing millions of people to leave their homes in a short period of time?

   I don't want to wait until the camps become "a problem" to have that conversation.

   I feel like none of these news outlets talk about the logistics and what they imply.

   You can deport thousands of people. It would be bad. You shouldn't but it could be done. You can't do millions. I feel sick.

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     myrmepropagandist (futurebird@sauropods.win)'s status on Saturday, 19-Jul-2025 15:07:49 JST myrmepropagandist

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     They talk a little about how cruel and capricious it can be. But, not about the hard limits of numbers and time and where this is going.

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     marymessall (marymessall@mendeddrum.org)'s status on Sunday, 20-Jul-2025 05:06:02 JST marymessall

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     @futurebird

     It was Timothy Snyder's book "Black Earth" that opened my eyes to the reality that deporting people at scale is impossible, that keeping people alive in captivity is difficult and expensive, and that it was incompetence in addition to evil which caused the Nazi concentration camps to become death camps. I have these screenshots from the ebook that I keep on my phone so that I can share them when the topic comes up.

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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Sunday, 20-Jul-2025 07:24:52 JST djsumdog

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     • EllisDee
     It's something a lot of conservatives in general don't realize. First, there are barely any deportations happening. They're lower than the rate under Biden (although few people are getting in now). Trump also granted amnesty to agricultural workers, which could be up to 2 million people. The ICE raids everyone on the left is going insane over are mostly for actual criminals, and most are going through full due process.
     
     What conservatives don't understand is the infrastructure that's being built for this fake operation .. it's not for the illegal aliens. They're not going away. A tiny symbolic amount might get deported. That border patrol military force: that's for you. That's going to turn on American citizens. Criticize Israel? Maybe you need to be rounded up and educated. We'll give you a score to track it. It's like a credit score, except it's for your behavior. Let's call it a social credit score. A good one means you can get some of this nice World Coin. Oh it's not a CBDC, because it's private! It's part of our public private partnership. See, your god Elon created it with Grok and his buddy Peter Thiel.
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     Stephan Matthiesen (stephanmatthiesen@troet.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 20-Jul-2025 07:24:54 JST Stephan Matthiesen

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     • EllisDee

     @futurebird
     I guess what Ellis doesn't quite realise is that, looking at his profile and previous posts, people like him would be next in line to be sent to concentration camp or as cannon fodder for some war.

     Dictators don't care if you supported them, they feel no loyalty. If they can use you, they will, and the only use the have for people like Ellis is meat for the war grinder.

     @EllisDee

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     myrmepropagandist (futurebird@sauropods.win)'s status on Sunday, 20-Jul-2025 07:24:55 JST myrmepropagandist

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     @EllisDee

     Ellis, do you really believe this or are you more trying to get a rise out of people who would obviously disagree with you?

     The people you call "motherfuckers" are my neighbors and friends. Would you be a different person if you came to the US at age 3?

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     EllisDee (ellisdee@wolfgirl.bar)'s status on Sunday, 20-Jul-2025 07:24:56 JST EllisDee

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     @futurebird Imagine a world with livable wages and affordable housing.
     
     Its called deport the motherfuckers
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