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   ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Jul-2025 03:44:16 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

   • Filippo Valsorda
   • mei

   @mei @filippo maybe? back when i was 22 and wanted to roleplay an sre i'd have loved it

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Jul-2025 03:49:37 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • Filippo Valsorda
     • mei

     @mei @filippo but i also had no friends so the whole "needs to have at least two people involved" requirement would've been a nonstarter

     i wonder how many logs this proposal would result in

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Jul-2025 03:54:08 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • Filippo Valsorda
     • mei

     @filippo @mei have you considered rewarding log maintainers in ways more than "warm fuzzy feeling knowing you're contributing to the web's security"? i don't mean monetarily, i mean via some sort of social mechanism

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     Filippo Valsorda (filippo@abyssdomain.expert)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Jul-2025 03:54:09 JST Filippo Valsorda

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     • mei

     @whitequark @mei I am curious too! To be fair it's the least urgent pager ever. 22h of allowed downtime!

     If we get zero new logs, we'll finish the work on Verifiable Indexes (which replace the need to scrape the whole log, drastically reducing outbound) and try again next year.

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Jul-2025 03:59:42 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • Filippo Valsorda
     • mei

     @filippo @mei the obvious-to-me option, since you're already tracking uptime and how long the log's been running, to put up a leaderboard with these numbers up

     a lot of engineers _love_ to make number go up and stay high

     moreover, you can then use this institutionally as a proxy indicator of your ability to run a reliable service

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     Filippo Valsorda (filippo@abyssdomain.expert)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Jul-2025 03:59:43 JST Filippo Valsorda

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     • mei

     @whitequark @mei I am listening! For example?

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Jul-2025 03:59:58 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • Filippo Valsorda
     • mei

     @filippo @mei so not only do you get the enjoyment of being #1 by the uptime in the global transparency log contest, but you can also attach it to your resume whenever you're next applying to an SRE position

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Jul-2025 04:03:56 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • Filippo Valsorda
     • mei

     @filippo @mei in the 3 minutes since i posted this two people have independently said that this would motivate them to run a log, so i'm going to go with "this is probably effective"

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     Chris Siebenmann (cks@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Jul-2025 09:39:02 JST Chris Siebenmann

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     • Filippo Valsorda
     • mei

     @filippo @whitequark @mei Two people is understandable but kind of a pity from my perspective as an academic system administrator with plenty of random spare hardware I could potentially repurpose. I'd maybe volunteer myself for that nominal pager, but my co-workers are not going to be so enthused.

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Jul-2025 09:39:02 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • Filippo Valsorda
     • Chris Siebenmann
     • mei

     @cks @filippo @mei yeah on the whole it does feel a bit "let's find people who could do industry-standard labor for the below-industry-standard $0 rates"

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Jul-2025 12:53:52 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • Filippo Valsorda
     • Chris Siebenmann
     • mei

     @filippo @cks @mei this is a _really important_ thing to state. i suspect a lot of people (me included) are reading it a lot more seriously than you're intending

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     Filippo Valsorda (filippo@abyssdomain.expert)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Jul-2025 12:54:00 JST Filippo Valsorda

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     • Chris Siebenmann
     • mei

     @cks @whitequark @mei I had in mind to reach out to you, so hi :)

     People are reading more into my off-hand pager comment than I intended. Google asks for two email addresses of “representatives” just so that there’s a fallback if eg there’s a vulnerability and the main person in on vacation. They don’t actually page anyone. It’s fine if the SRE work is done by a single person in the end.

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     gabriele renzi (riffraff@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Jul-2025 14:22:54 JST gabriele renzi

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     • Filippo Valsorda
     • mei

     @whitequark @mei @filippo i recall setting up a Beowulf cluster in our computer lab out of old PCs, the admins happily noted "it'll probably be slower than any of our new PCs, but it'll be fun, great idea".

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 10-Jul-2025 04:24:18 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • Filippo Valsorda
     • Chris Siebenmann
     • mei

     @filippo @cks @mei *much* better

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     Filippo Valsorda (filippo@abyssdomain.expert)'s status on Thursday, 10-Jul-2025 04:24:20 JST Filippo Valsorda

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     • Chris Siebenmann
     • mei

     @whitequark @cks @mei updated the text not to mention pagers. How to hit 99% is up to the operator, and it doesn’t require 24/7 people.