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    silverpill (silverpill@mitra.social)'s status on Tuesday, 01-Jul-2025 06:21:01 JST silverpill silverpill

    @ujeenator

    >BYOK E2EE messaging based on the same nomadic keys

    Yes, this is already possible. A message can be encrypted with recipient's public key and included in a signed activity. Then recipient decrypts the message with their secret key. Keys are stored on the client side, so server operators can't see the plain text messages.

    However, I am not familiar with modern encryption schemes like Olm and MLS. They might require additional keys.

    >“Nomadic metadata,” e.g. metadata that follows your nomadic identity across multiple instances, such as global reputation or karma

    The user is in control of their data, they decide which objects to keep and which to discard. I think nomadic karma system would not be reliable, because people will remove anything negative from their profiles, but a system of achievements might work.

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      silverpill (silverpill@mitra.social)'s status on Tuesday, 01-Jul-2025 21:35:19 JST silverpill silverpill
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      @ujeenator

      >E2EE

      I did a bit of research and wrote a mini-spec: https://codeberg.org/silverpill/feps/src/branch/main/0806/fep-0806.md

      In conversation about a year ago permalink

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      silverpill (silverpill@mitra.social)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Jul-2025 05:20:56 JST silverpill silverpill
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      • Lutin Discret

      @lutindiscret Thanks! I am aware of this document, but MLS is quite complicated and no fediverse project supports it yet (even Matrix folks are struggling with it).
      I want a simpler solution, something that I can implement within a reasonable time. And client side signing makes client side encryption very easy (if I correctly understood how X25519 works).

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      Lutin Discret (lutindiscret@mastodon.libre-entreprise.com)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Jul-2025 05:20:58 JST Lutin Discret Lutin Discret
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      @silverpill i juste wanted to make sure you have seen https://socialwebfoundation.org/2025/06/13/mls-over-activitypub-draft/

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        Good news in privacy for ActivityPub. The first early draft of the MLS over ActivityPub specification went out this week. It’s been part of my work on our E2EE for ActivityPub project at the …

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