The xlibre guy is genuinely insane :insane_eagle:
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Dushman (dushman@hollow.raccoon.quest)'s status on Sunday, 29-Jun-2025 01:10:58 JST Dushman
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Dushman (dushman@hollow.raccoon.quest)'s status on Sunday, 29-Jun-2025 01:10:54 JST Dushman
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Yeah. I've been using it for like 2 years and it just works.Johnny Peligro likes this. -
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Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Sunday, 29-Jun-2025 01:10:55 JST Johnny Peligro
@dushman @phnt i have been using wayland full time since 2021 and it just works. -
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Dushman (dushman@hollow.raccoon.quest)'s status on Sunday, 29-Jun-2025 01:10:56 JST Dushman
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I remember when Wayland was pretty broken but these days it works way better, especially for games. No screen tearing or anything like that. Also setting up multiple monitors on X is like urethral sounding with a rusty screwdriver. -
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Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Sunday, 29-Jun-2025 01:10:57 JST Phantasm
@dushman Anyone that wants to touch a codebase that is over 20 years old has to be insane. The difference is that those that maintained Xorg are insane in a different way. -
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Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Sunday, 29-Jun-2025 01:12:42 JST Phantasm
@dushman
>Wayland
>especially for games
Compositing still enabled for games both in windowed and fullscreen -> 30% performance drop on KDE Plasma 2 months ago (broken for years).
>screen tearing
Don't care, install a compositor and force vsync, or enable TearFree/Double buffering
>Also setting up multiple monitors on X is like urethral sounding with a rusty screwdriver.
Doing that right now (pic). Nicely configurable with a script I stole from Luke Smith and slightly modified to support sleep and "docking". Arandr exists.
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h (eris@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 29-Jun-2025 01:12:47 JST h
@dushman @phnt multiple monitors on x is the easiest thing ever if you have a real window manager Phantasm likes this. -
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snacks (snacks@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 29-Jun-2025 01:21:04 JST snacks
@phnt @dushman starting to think people who hate wayland are mostly using kde or gnome and the ones shilling it use wlroots based window managers -
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Nicholas Conrad (nicholas@aklp.club)'s status on Sunday, 29-Jun-2025 02:09:05 JST Nicholas Conrad
Let me get this straight: "Guy who wants to make X better is insane because".... [checks notes] ..."X is currently bad."
Wouldn't that make the people insisting on controlling X while refusing to make it better the insane ones??
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Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Sunday, 29-Jun-2025 02:10:42 JST Phantasm
@nicholas @dushman No, he's insane because he doubted vaccines once in LKML and defended WW2 Germany once. So it's more like: "Guy who wants to make X better is insane because" ... [checks notes] ... "he said unpopular opinions 5+ years ago." ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: likes this. -
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Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Sunday, 29-Jun-2025 02:33:35 JST Phantasm
@snacks @dushman I don't use Plasma, it's just the only Wayland capable thing I have installed that also resembles the "Wayland experience as intended for mass users" and I'm willing to configure it. I use dwm and I'm never moving away from it, except maybe porting my patches to dwl when X11 becomes completely unusable (I'll switch to BSDs before this happens in Linux land.)
The only capable Wayland WMs I may even consider are hyprland and dwl anyway. niri is made by a gnome enjoyer, so I immediately don't care about it. Plus the scrolling gimmick isn't my thing. And i3 (sway) isn't my thing.
And I'm not feeling like refactoring 10+ scripts for a specific wayland wm and finding alternatives for other daemons either. Wayland is basically DoA for me. From my viewpoint it's an attempt to make something better than the previous solution while not being compatible with the previous solution in the first place. You don't write replacements like that. Even pipewire understood that. -
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Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Sunday, 29-Jun-2025 03:36:08 JST Phantasm
@dushman @nicholas emacs, glibc and gcc were originally written by a pedophile and wlroots and sway were originally written by a pedophile. You think that people running that software care? Will these facts make you stop using it? No, of course not. So why should developer's opinion about something external to the project influence your opinions of the project? I don't agree on some political topics of Pleroma maintainers. Will that stop me from using it? No, it won't even stop me from considering contributing. Why? Because I appreciate that they can separate the project they maintain and personal opinions outside of the project.
Also in the ideal world defending nazis, commies and chomos would have the same outcome, but it doesn't. All three are dangerous. We don't live in an ideal world. -
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Dushman (dushman@hollow.raccoon.quest)'s status on Sunday, 29-Jun-2025 03:36:09 JST Dushman
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I mean I'd say defending Nazi Germany is more than an unpopular opinion lol -
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Nicholas Conrad (nicholas@aklp.club)'s status on Sunday, 29-Jun-2025 21:22:34 JST Nicholas Conrad
Every project with a coc bangs on about their dei policies for pages on end, but this guy's crazy for 'yapping' for 1 sentence to say everyone is welcome regardless of their immutable characteristics? People losing their lunches over his project taking a stand not to have race, gender, or orientation preferences are the ones with their heads screwed on backwards, literally nothing could be more inclusive than that.
As for being antivax, I'm not familiar with that interchange, but I'd bet dollars to donuts he was just anti one particular vax, for which the evidence is now very strong it was neither safe nor effective. If so, having a track record of being objectively right when it is unpopular to say so is hardly an albatross.
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Dushman (dushman@hollow.raccoon.quest)'s status on Sunday, 29-Jun-2025 21:22:35 JST Dushman
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I meant his yapping about DEI in the readme and being an antivaxer -
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Gianmarco Gargiulo (gianmarcogg03@mastodon.uno)'s status on Sunday, 29-Jun-2025 23:30:31 JST Gianmarco Gargiulo
@phnt @dushman Plasma has an option to allow tearing in full screen applications.
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