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   Bruce Elrick (virtuous_sloth@cosocial.ca)'s status on Monday, 23-Jun-2025 09:48:10 JST Bruce Elrick

   • Evan Prodromou

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   Jeepers, controlled energy generation or warheads?

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Monday, 23-Jun-2025 10:13:37 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • M. Grégoire

     @mpjgregoire @virtuous_sloth should any countries have nuclear weapons? And if yes, which ones?

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     M. Grégoire (mpjgregoire@cosocial.ca)'s status on Monday, 23-Jun-2025 10:13:38 JST M. Grégoire

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     • Evan Prodromou

     @virtuous_sloth
     That's the question. I suppose @evan probably has the former in mind, as few would answer that countries ought to pursue nuclear weapons.

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     M. Grégoire (mpjgregoire@cosocial.ca)'s status on Monday, 23-Jun-2025 10:26:30 JST M. Grégoire

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     • Evan Prodromou

     @evan
     The world would be better off if no countries had nuclear weapons. Most people believe that, don't they?

     @virtuous_sloth

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Monday, 23-Jun-2025 10:33:37 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • M. Grégoire

     @mpjgregoire @virtuous_sloth right. I think that's the point of the non-proliferation treaty: that non-weapons-holding countries can develop nuclear power without making weapons, and that countries with weapons will disarm.

     Four countries (India, Pakistan, Israel and North Korea) didn't sign the deal, and now have weapons.

     Right now, the US is bombing one NPT signatory on behalf of one of the non-signatories.

     So, should countries be like Israel, or like Iran?

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     Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Monday, 23-Jun-2025 10:34:49 JST Evan Prodromou

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     • M. Grégoire

     @mpjgregoire @virtuous_sloth it's better if no countries have them. But some countries *do* have them. So what should other countries do?

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     M. Grégoire (mpjgregoire@cosocial.ca)'s status on Monday, 23-Jun-2025 11:39:21 JST M. Grégoire

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     • Evan Prodromou

     @evan People keep telling me these days that renewables are cheaper than nuclear power plants, so maybe now no country should have nuclear programmes, peaceful or otherwise. I certainly don't think a Gulf State should be spending money on nuclear energy — they have no shortage of sunlight or of fossil fuels.

     My answer to the poll was "No nuclear programme". Though I meant more that countries that don't have one shouldn't start, than that France should shut down Areva.

     @virtuous_sloth

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     GNU Too (gnu2@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Monday, 23-Jun-2025 12:32:19 JST GNU Too

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     • Evan Prodromou
     • M. Grégoire
     @evan @mpjgregoire @virtuous_sloth countries should be like Taiwan.