@ube @Cyrillic I've never seen a pretzel quite like the person who claims that this passage doesn't condemn homosexuality 🙃
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casey is remote (realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 21-Jun-2025 02:05:05 JST
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Ube Maija (ube@spergia.net)'s status on Saturday, 21-Jun-2025 02:05:06 JST
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@Cyrillic @realcaseyrollins a more direct translation from aramaic of romans 1:27:
> And again also their males in this way abandoned the natural need for females, and they were ravished with desire one for another, even male for male, and committed disgrace and received a right reward in their persons for their error.
this is about lust and hedonism not homoesxuality. there is an implication that male on male hedonistic desire is worse, that lust for a woman is more natural, but it feels very clear to me this is about hedonistic sex rather than to make children -
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Ube Maija (ube@spergia.net)'s status on Saturday, 21-Jun-2025 02:05:07 JST
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@realcaseyrollins which is just about the only thing i ever hear cited even though by the trans logic wearing a mans clothes as a trans woman or a womans clothes as a trans man would be crossdressing because a trans woman is a woman and a trans man is a man. it's all based on preexisting assumption if you are transphobic it's transphobic if you're not its not. anyways as far as i can tell it's not incompatible with christianity at all. same with homosexuality which again the most cited verses are talking about pederasty specifically -
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Protoss (cyrillic@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Saturday, 21-Jun-2025 02:05:07 JST
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@ube @realcaseyrollins Romans 1 is the most homophobic thing ever written
Romans 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
Romans 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
Romans 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Romans 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in [their] knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Romans 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
Romans 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
Romans 1:31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
Romans 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. -
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casey is remote (realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social)'s status on Saturday, 21-Jun-2025 02:05:08 JST
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@ube Well not for nothing but there were Levitical laws against cross-dressing as well