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   𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙 (sally@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Jun-2025 23:03:18 JST 𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙
   Who has higher odds of surviving an economic collapse:
   
   Nobody A from Seul, spends most of his day sitting his ass in an office doing bullshit and fake work for capitalist pig from Samsung, and his hobbies include watching slop and brainrot on Tiktok and Netflix.
   
   Nobody B from somewhere in Hamgyon province: a peasant devoted to his leader and example of true Juche working class, he knows how to grow almost any kind of crops and likely knows his way around fishing and hunting if necessary, his hobbies include smoking and sometimes plays Yutnori with his friends and family.
   
   Pick your warrior.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Jun-2025 23:03:15 JST 翠星石

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     @sally Nobody B has higher chances over the short term, but over the long term eventually the smoking will kill him.
     
     Provided nobody A had previously invested part of his wage into something with value (precious metals (i.e. jewelry), a vehicle, knifes, a crossbow (can't own a firearm in the nonfree country of Korea huh?), etc) rather than blown it all on slop, he'll likely survive a economic collapse, as he'll be able to trade any of those things for food and water in the short term until those becomes available again and he won't die from smoking (although a sedentary lifestyle somewhat less lethal than smoking, having to get off his ass and walk in long queues to receive food would solve that problem).
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Jun-2025 23:31:35 JST 翠星石

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     @sally The thing with tobacco is that it makes you want to keep sourcing it at pretty much the same priority as food.
     
     If many tobacco addicts could only get it by growing it and it was possible for them to do so (i.e. they are farming food crops to survive), they would grow it alongside the food crops.
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     𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙 (sally@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Jun-2025 23:31:37 JST 𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙

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     @Suiseiseki
     
     On the long term he'll likely be too busy trying to survive to care about sourcing tobacco, so the odds of him dying of proprietary lung cancer will be lower. I however have to handicap nobody B in some way because else he's just too good, North Korea has an insanely high rate of smokers, pretty much everyone smokes there, so it's a reasonable tradeoff.