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   • Neil Brown

   @revk @neil Sure, it was your first sentence that made me feel the need to reply. I hope you are less divided now. 😄

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     @samir @neil indeed, hence my last sentence.

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     @revk @neil Evidence strongly implies that quotas work. If you set a minimum diversity quota, on any given axis, it doesn’t just improve your quality (because e.g. women who stay in male-dominated industries tend to be way better than their male counterparts, on average), it also makes people under-represented in the audience more likely to stick around.

     So yes, Neil is right to do what he’s trying to do.

     An example: https://kjonnsforskning.no/en/2016/10/secret-behind-norways-gender-quota-success

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     • Neil Brown

     @neil I am a tad divided on this.

     What makes sense is an industry such that around half the people that could be in the panel are female. And then that half the panel are female.

     But if 95% of people that could be on the panel are male? Ensuring one is female is distorting things, assuming a small panel.

     What needs fixing in such cases is why is the split of those that could be on the panel skewed?

     Maybe distorting things in such cases helps that in the long term?