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   Toby! (thatoneguyt_t@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Jun-2025 03:23:47 JST Toby!

   This is why people don't support big media. Greta Thunberg was kidnapped. Point blank. Was on international waters. Israel is not the world Police. They do not have jurisdiction in international waters. That is kidnapping. No denying it. And not a single large media corporation is mentioning that. What the hell is wrong with this world?
   #news #gaza #israel #usa #aid #climate #international

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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Jun-2025 03:23:47 JST feld

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     > Was on international waters
     
     Is there proof of this? I can't find the GPS coordinates for their last reported location, but Israel's territorial waters begin 12 nautical miles off the coast and they were stopped within visual distance from the Port of Ashdod so I'm pretty sure it wasn't still in international waters
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     Hisham (hisham_hm@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Jun-2025 05:36:06 JST Hisham

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     @feld @ThatOneGuyT_T Territorial waters of Israel or of occupied Palestine, according to international law?

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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Jun-2025 05:36:06 JST feld

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     @hisham_hm @ThatOneGuyT_T Palestine is not a state. Should there be a two state solution? Yes, I think so, but the rest of the world has not committed to that and put the appropriate pressure on Israel.
     
     As it currently stands, that land is recognized as Israel's and so are those territorial waters.
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     Toby! (thatoneguyt_t@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Jun-2025 05:42:32 JST Toby!

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     -"no State may validly purport to subject any part of them to its sovereignty. The Convention on the High Seas was used as a foundation for the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), signed in 1982, which recognized exclusive economic zones extending 200 nautical miles (230 mi; 370 km) from the baseline, where coastal states have sovereign rights to the water column and sea floor as well as the natural resources found there."

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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Jun-2025 05:42:32 JST feld

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     @ThatOneGuyT_T @ibrahim_cris I was also gonna mention the 200NM boundary but that's really more about natural resources than territory. The territorial waters is a much shorter distance.
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     Christian (ibrahim_cris@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Jun-2025 05:42:33 JST Christian

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     @feld @ThatOneGuyT_T I like the thought and what Greta try to do - just the International Waters Idea is wrong or fake news.

     https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_waters

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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Jun-2025 05:53:57 JST feld

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     @ThatOneGuyT_T @ibrahim_cris
     
     > Gaza is recognized as an independent state
     
     not by the UN, which stupidly is what we have somehow decided is what matters internationally and we likely won't see that change until the USA is dethroned as the world's superpower
     
     so USA keeps vetoing it...
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     Toby! (thatoneguyt_t@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Jun-2025 05:53:58 JST Toby!

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     @ibrahim_cris @feld tldr Israel only has jurisdiction 200 miles outside of their shore, the aid vessel was both more than 200 mi away from ANY shore, and also was not heading towards Israels' shores, it was heading to Gaza, where Israel does not have jurisdiction either, as Gaza is recognized as an independent state. Even IF they were within 200 miles of the shore of Gaza, Israel still does not have jurisdiction there.

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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Jun-2025 06:20:03 JST feld

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     @ThatOneGuyT_T @ibrahim_cris good point, but they even lost other rights in the UN in 2020 when they expired
     
     There's also the Oslo Accords...
     
     International agreement on these things is a fucking nightmare
     
     I don't think this is worth arguing the specifics right now. It's easier to just point out that there are no allies stepping in to help Palestine fight back, so if anything that is enough of a signal that governments are OK with Israel denying Palestinian statehood regardless of what they signal in UN votes.
     
     A lot of cruel and cowardly people out there in power
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     Toby! (thatoneguyt_t@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Jun-2025 06:20:04 JST Toby!

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     @feld @ibrahim_cris They are recognized by the United Nations as a non-member observer State, so they are recognized as a state just not part of the United nations, similar to Taiwan.

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     Christian (ibrahim_cris@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Jun-2025 06:33:20 JST Christian

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     @ThatOneGuyT_T @feld

     I just thought that the spin with the waters was wrong. This sea is to small.

     And Israel have the power and control, since Gaza has no stable Ground. They are not in EU nor in African Bound or they try to fallback on Osman/Sultan/Dynasty. So yes Netanja is wrong and what he do too. build Bridges to Humans protesting in Israel against that hate and stop Hamas from continue the hate.
     End long wars is hard.. because of the past. Issue got bigger with.. more time in spread

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     Toby! (thatoneguyt_t@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Jun-2025 06:33:21 JST Toby!

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     @feld @ibrahim_cris The point that I was making is that even if they were closer to the shore, Israel would still not have jurisdiction

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     Toby! (thatoneguyt_t@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Jun-2025 06:47:02 JST Toby!

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     @ibrahim_cris @feld They. do. not. have. power. to. operate. outside. of. their. jurisdiction. Point blank. They are not the world police. They're not allowed to do just whatever they want. There are literally multiple cases going on right now specifically about this blockade because they are operating outside of their jurisdiction.

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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Jun-2025 06:47:02 JST feld

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     @ThatOneGuyT_T @ibrahim_cris there's only one solution when we have international disputes as there is no "world government" that overrules everything:
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     Christian (ibrahim_cris@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Jun-2025 06:47:03 JST Christian

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     @ThatOneGuyT_T @feld
     They secure some Area cause of Military Operations. And with Power and Force present they do. Point.

     I do not like it but i think it is.

     However i like what Greta try to do. And think or hope The will change something or minds on both sides with this...

     Its just dangerous. And can cost Life.