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   Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 05-Jun-2025 01:16:30 JST Adrianna Tan

   ‘These San Francisco malls escaped the doom loop narrative. Here’s their secret’

   Their secret: having affordable (and mostly trendy) Asian food

   Who would have thought if you built a mall with only bad luxury clothing and no food, no one will come

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     Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 05-Jun-2025 01:20:01 JST Adrianna Tan

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     I really don’t understand who are the people mourning Macy’s and Bloomingdale’s, or why they are a symbol of anything

     I agree all of union square is basically trash but not for the same reasons (I live a mile away and I would never go there voluntarily. I do not associate it with fun. It’s extremely boring and has always been and is a bit of a culinary and fun wasteland. It’s been hard to see it get even worse, but as a San Franciscan I don’t identify whatsoever with ‘oh sad downtown is dead’. I agree it means ‘our city govt is in big trouble soon’)

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     Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 05-Jun-2025 01:20:21 JST Adrianna Tan

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     • sanae :vbike: :vbus: (SF)

     @sanae yes, amazing strategy that’s right there that someone people won’t use.

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     sanae :vbike: :vbus: (SF) (sanae@carfree.city)'s status on Thursday, 05-Jun-2025 01:20:22 JST sanae :vbike: :vbus: (SF)

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     @skinnylatte I have often thought that, more generally, the way to "revitalize downtown" is to try having stores where people want to buy things rather than the current strategy: stores where people don't want to buy things

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     Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 05-Jun-2025 01:21:17 JST Adrianna Tan

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     • sanae :vbike: :vbus: (SF)

     @sanae (it’s all planning / DBI, mainly I think and the cost and length of time of permits. But also lack of political will)

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     Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 05-Jun-2025 01:29:39 JST Adrianna Tan

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     Come to think of it even when I liked going out and drinking, I did not like going to downtown SF

     Downtown SF (union square / fidi) has always been a place you kind of somehow have to go to and then fuck off to Chinatown or TL for food and fun after.

     It’s only gotten worse now that there aren’t the same no of international tourists. I swear I spend most of my welcome to the U.S. chats with foreign friends saying ‘unless you’re in New York City.. downtown is.. not the downtown you know’

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     Carson Hill 📎 (dicenbuttons@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 05-Jun-2025 01:37:09 JST Carson Hill 📎

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     @skinnylatte

     I could see an argument that the fall of Macy's and Bloomingdale's represents a shrinking upper/middle class, such that there are no longer people with time and money to spend on clothing in their stores. I could see some merit to the idea that this indicates a downward trend of the average person's wealth, and what that says about America/Americans.

     I don't really care about that though, when there's also fascism. Maybe after the fascism is gone, I'll care about sad rich folks.

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     Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 05-Jun-2025 01:37:09 JST Adrianna Tan

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     • Carson Hill 📎

     @dicenbuttons I guess. But surely that whole model has been long languishing or dead even before they were visibly so? And everywhere too?

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     Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 05-Jun-2025 01:52:14 JST Adrianna Tan

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     @frappe @kkeller coming from that urban environment, I am perennially disappointed by anything else, and especially distressed by suburban mallls you have to drive to and through

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     Frappe (frappe@mas.to)'s status on Thursday, 05-Jun-2025 01:52:15 JST Frappe

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     • kkeller

     @kkeller @skinnylatte I remember going to Hong Kong and on the 20th story of this 40-story building there was this massive dim sum restaurant. No way to tell it was up in there (at least I couldn’t, but I had no language or cultural skills). How much more fun would Union Square department stores and FiDi towers be if they were filled with random stuff like this to find.

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     kkeller (kkeller@curling.social)'s status on Thursday, 05-Jun-2025 01:52:16 JST kkeller

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     @skinnylatte I have always thought of Union Square as a tourist trap. I feel like I can always get what I need elsewhere for either better quality or lower price.

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     EvilTofu (eviltofu@kopiti.am)'s status on Thursday, 05-Jun-2025 07:15:21 JST EvilTofu

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     @skinnylatte Are there any board gaming places in SF?

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     Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 05-Jun-2025 07:15:21 JST Adrianna Tan

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     @eviltofu lots