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   vic (vic@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Tuesday, 20-May-2025 08:58:22 JST vic

   • Mancow Muller ?

   I thought nitrogen was supposed to not be painful and you don't even notice it

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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Tuesday, 20-May-2025 09:04:30 JST Hoss Delgado

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     It's not painful at all. Aside from carbon dioxide, your body has no ability to tell the difference between an inert gas and oxygen. You lose consciousness before you realize what's happening. That's why sewer workers carry gas detectors on them.
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     Mancow Muller ? (cowanon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 20-May-2025 09:06:13 JST Mancow Muller ?

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     Helium is a prime ingredient in the infamous "most painless suicide" method involving sleeping meds, a helium tank, and a plastic bag.
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Tuesday, 20-May-2025 09:08:51 JST Hoss Delgado

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     We should've switched to nitrogen asphyxiation as the primary execution method over half a century ago. The lethal injection is horrific, but people find the gas chamber optics icky I guess.
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Tuesday, 20-May-2025 09:12:32 JST Hoss Delgado

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     Hanging is also instant when you do it right (Japan has it down to a science at this point), but again, people don't really care about what's humane, they care about not feeling icky after putting a serial murder rapist in the ground where he belongs.
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     egirlyuumimain (egirlyuumimain@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 20-May-2025 09:12:33 JST egirlyuumimain

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     @Hoss @cowanon @vic Reminds them of those icky nazis
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     vic (vic@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Tuesday, 20-May-2025 09:15:03 JST vic

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     I think it's because people don't actually want painless execution, they want it to hurt the criminal for 1) a sense of revenge and 2) deterrence of other would-be criminals. However, it doesn't work for 2) since executions aren't broadcasted/livestreamed.

     Really we need two classes of execution: private and painless or very public, painful, and drawn-out.

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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Tuesday, 20-May-2025 09:18:57 JST Hoss Delgado

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     Aside from a handful of examples where I hope they went painfully, I agree with the idea of making execution as humane as possible. If only because the state's prerogative should be to carry out the sentence while minimizing any "low-hanging fruit" moral objections from opponents of the death penalty.
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     tiddlywinkler (tiddlywinkler@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 20-May-2025 09:30:40 JST tiddlywinkler

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     Nitrogen hypoxia used to be used in animal shelters and was considered painless, but now there is apparently a push to ban it. It looks to me like they are switching courses and trying to make it look bad because they don't want it used for human executions.
     
     Interestingly, the reason that the electric chair was invented was because Thomas Edison was trying to convince everyone that AC power (which was invented by Tesla and being championed by Westinghouse) was inherently more dangerous than DC (his method), so he arranged a demonstration in which an elephant was quickly killed by AC electrocution. The government people in attendance immediately wanted to develop it as an execution method to replace the "barbaric" hanging. Edison tried to convince everyone to refer to being electrocuted as being "Westinghoused." It didn't take.
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     Hoss Delgado (hoss@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Tuesday, 20-May-2025 09:31:36 JST Hoss Delgado

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     • tiddlywinkler
     There might be some unpleasant looking convulsions during the process of asphyxiation, but by that point the condemned has long lost consciousness.