I was just talking about my primary laptop. It was gifted to me in 2018. I just now realize... that's SEVEN YEARS AGO! What the fuck! Interestingly, since I primarily game on Playstation and the only games on my laptop are older... I do not feel it's age during use. Still runs great. The RGB is wonky, and it needs a new LCD panel, but it's still going and doing everything I need it to do as fast as I need it done. Just... where the fuck has the time gone? It, and I, aren't new anymore.
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Miakoda (hellomiakoda@pdx.social)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 17:23:18 JST Miakoda
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Miakoda (hellomiakoda@pdx.social)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 17:24:58 JST Miakoda
BTW, this is what computers are like when you take care of them and run Linux on them. I have yet to be affected by Intel's not-really-that-recent shitty processor issues, cause I haven't bought (or been gifted) a PC this entire time, and don't need a new one yet.
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Miakoda (hellomiakoda@pdx.social)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 17:29:27 JST Miakoda
One of the things I like about Linux is...
I have lots of computers. That seven year old one is the newest I have (that are in service, and not including things like game consoles and phones), and it's not the one I'm on the most often (due to it being an absolute fucking behemoth).
Computers lasting ages has been the norm for me since I left Windows back in the XP to Vista upgrade.Steve's Place repeated this. -
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Miakoda (hellomiakoda@pdx.social)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 17:31:49 JST Miakoda
"Oh no, this battery doesn't even last an hour", a damaged display, or a failed drive, isn't something that makes me go get another computer, even when I do have money. I go get the parts and repair it. It's a lot cheaper, less inconvenient, and less crap in the e-waste pile.
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Miakoda (hellomiakoda@pdx.social)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 17:33:39 JST Miakoda
Besides... I really don't like swapping out my primary machine unless it's just plain not keeping up anymore. I have it set up just how I like it. It's a pain in the ass to do that all over again. Effort I don't want to spend to then... have the same friggen experience I was having before.
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Miakoda (hellomiakoda@pdx.social)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 17:40:12 JST Miakoda
Oh, and for the record, Windows XP is fucking ugly, as is Vista. 7 is not as amazing as it's fans claim. 10 is shit, 11 is even shittier shit. 8.0 and Me are a toss up for shittiest shit. Anyone who says these OSes are good are likely, incorrectly, judging an OS as "good" because a progam they use hasn't been ported to anything else.
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Miakoda (hellomiakoda@pdx.social)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 17:43:51 JST Miakoda
"I need Adobe" and "Linux doesn't work with [insert particular game]'s DRM" do not make Windows good. They make the company who makes those programs lazy and/or crap and/or greedy.
The lot of them profit off you insisting Windows is "better" because [insert program here] isn't on Linux. Linux didn't do that, it absolutely could run whatever it is if the dev or copyright holder allowed it.
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Miakoda (hellomiakoda@pdx.social)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 17:46:08 JST Miakoda
@freya That one I'll give you. Linux's accessibility options are shit, not going to sugar coat it. I'm sure there's software to MAKE it accessible... but how TF would the user who needs that install and configure it?!
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Freya (it/its)𒀭𒈹𒍠𒊩 (freya@chaosfem.tw)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 17:46:10 JST Freya (it/its)𒀭𒈹𒍠𒊩
@hellomiakoda we're only stuck on windows due to Linux accessibility being somewhere in the realm of "nope". Heavily stripped down windows though, no AI or cloud bullshit here
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Miakoda (hellomiakoda@pdx.social)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 17:51:43 JST Miakoda
@freya LoL, I just took a look to see if that's changed and I hadn't noticed... Nope. Can't read the screen? Fuck you, I guess. Wow.
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Miakoda (hellomiakoda@pdx.social)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 17:54:00 JST Miakoda
@freya Now I'm curious if Orca works on the terminal emulator.
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Freya (it/its)𒀭𒈹𒍠𒊩 (freya@chaosfem.tw)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 17:54:01 JST Freya (it/its)𒀭𒈹𒍠𒊩
@hellomiakoda it says something that OpenSolaris 2008.11 has better accessibility than.... uh, any Linux distro currently available
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Miakoda (hellomiakoda@pdx.social)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 17:56:39 JST Miakoda
@freya "Button" is right there on my list of useless shit that makes me mad, right next to "Something went wrong." errors.
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Freya (it/its)𒀭𒈹𒍠𒊩 (freya@chaosfem.tw)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 17:56:40 JST Freya (it/its)𒀭𒈹𒍠𒊩
@hellomiakoda most distros come with the accessibility software built-in, but it's not just the software. Is your app QT? GTK2,3,4? some new UI toolkit? is your distro using Wayland? Well done, there goes a good chunk of your accessibility. Oops, did pipewire just crash? Did you try and login as root on a text console? oops, your audio server is running as your user, not root, and modern Linux audio servers, for the sake of security, don't run across user boundaries. no speech for you! Does your app even have labeled buttons? Hell, the Ubuntu Mate installer, if you tab around it, you hear something like:
Button.
Button.
Panel.
Button
Layered pane.
Text. New York selected.
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Miakoda (hellomiakoda@pdx.social)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 18:00:50 JST Miakoda
@freya Oh this is worse than I expected. I installed Orca, and cloded and reporped the window, as the window said to do. EVERYTHING is "This is the dummy speech module" and a spoken erorr to go read a log file. I know how to fix it, but I'm a nerd, who can see.
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Freya (it/its)𒀭𒈹𒍠𒊩 (freya@chaosfem.tw)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 18:00:51 JST Freya (it/its)𒀭𒈹𒍠𒊩
@hellomiakoda well, assuming it's mate-terminal, no idea about other ones
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Miakoda (hellomiakoda@pdx.social)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 18:02:18 JST Miakoda
@freya I know. I wanted to attempt it from the POV of an average user.
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Freya (it/its)𒀭𒈹𒍠𒊩 (freya@chaosfem.tw)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 18:02:19 JST Freya (it/its)𒀭𒈹𒍠𒊩
@hellomiakoda oh you don't have SpeechDispatcher and/or the espeak module installed probably
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Miakoda (hellomiakoda@pdx.social)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 18:11:30 JST Miakoda
@freya konsole
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Miakoda (hellomiakoda@pdx.social)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 18:13:55 JST Miakoda
@freya OMFG, I can't get it to stop reading that error
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Freya (it/its)𒀭𒈹𒍠𒊩 (freya@chaosfem.tw)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 18:13:57 JST Freya (it/its)𒀭𒈹𒍠𒊩
@hellomiakoda oo, probably not. We don't think there's a QT Terminal element specifically. Same reason tihs one can't use Termius; there's no accessible terminal control in Electron
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Miakoda (hellomiakoda@pdx.social)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 18:15:09 JST Miakoda
@freya So... in conclusion... No, Linux isn't accessible. lol
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Freya (it/its)𒀭𒈹𒍠𒊩 (freya@chaosfem.tw)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 18:15:10 JST Freya (it/its)𒀭𒈹𒍠𒊩
@hellomiakoda yup, because every single speech output request is going to trigger that error. killall orca
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Miakoda (hellomiakoda@pdx.social)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 18:17:27 JST Miakoda
@freya I still say Linux is a much better OS... but there is indeed a big ol barrier for a whole group of users.
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Freya (it/its)𒀭𒈹𒍠𒊩 (freya@chaosfem.tw)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 18:17:29 JST Freya (it/its)𒀭𒈹𒍠𒊩
@hellomiakoda no. no it is not. Is why this one gets really annoyed at the "there is no excuse not to switch to linux" folks. yall aren't that, but gods, some people are
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Miakoda (hellomiakoda@pdx.social)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 18:19:42 JST Miakoda
@freya I think that depends heavily on which distro. Ubuntu and Manjaro are very different beasts, for example.
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Freya (it/its)𒀭𒈹𒍠𒊩 (freya@chaosfem.tw)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 18:19:44 JST Freya (it/its)𒀭𒈹𒍠𒊩
@hellomiakoda it.... is.... kinda. this one is increasingly of the opinion that Linux is... kind of like plan 9. a research OS, constantly having people poke at it and fuck with it, very much a moving target. rather the reason this one ceased entirely to use Linux in its infrastructure
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Miakoda (hellomiakoda@pdx.social)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 18:27:32 JST Miakoda
@freya I can agree the switch rom X11 to Wayland was poorly done. I have machines that just will not play nice with Wayland, and distros are forcing the switch.
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Freya (it/its)𒀭𒈹𒍠𒊩 (freya@chaosfem.tw)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 18:27:34 JST Freya (it/its)𒀭𒈹𒍠𒊩
@hellomiakoda not so much the userland, but the kernel as well. it feels.... shaky? the fact that they just hard-yanked the MD_LINEAR target, no warning, no nothing was.... kind of a wakeup call for us, we were trying to get some data off a Synology's disks and were this close to thinking the raid array was lost.... it wasn't, it's just that modern Linux yanked support for that target for......reasons? and it just gave us this sense of "holy shit. in the past 10 years, we've seen an incredibly janky init system become the default, more network managers than there are german transfems, 271.5 new desktop environments per minute, 3 or 4 incompatible and potentially conflicting audio servers, a switch away from *the* *standard* Unix display model to something very.......... app-y, and then... unfortunately what made us drop out of the Linux thing was, sadly, NixOS. Very cool idea............. as a research paper. as a proof of concept. Brutal violations of Unix traditions going back a very, very, very, very long time, and at that point we had to just drop out. We couldn't, anymore, with the constant adding and changing of features and the seeming need to change things for the sake of change
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Miakoda (hellomiakoda@pdx.social)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 18:30:06 JST Miakoda
@freya Indeed. I remember how long the removal of 32 bit took
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Freya (it/its)𒀭𒈹𒍠𒊩 (freya@chaosfem.tw)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 18:30:08 JST Freya (it/its)𒀭𒈹𒍠𒊩
@hellomiakoda where we come from, removal of the MD_LINEAR target would be announced, loudly, years in advance, overt warnings about using it across every kernel version following that anouncement, documentation on how to convert MD_LINEAR arrays to some other format without data loss, offers to externalise that target into a best-effort support module, and then, maby 8-10 years after the announcement, *then* it gets removed. As far as we could tell, the Linux removal of that target went like this:
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Miakoda (hellomiakoda@pdx.social)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 18:31:43 JST Miakoda
@freya For the distros I was using, yeah. Sorry, I wasn't specific
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Freya (it/its)𒀭𒈹𒍠𒊩 (freya@chaosfem.tw)'s status on Sunday, 18-May-2025 18:31:44 JST Freya (it/its)𒀭𒈹𒍠𒊩
@hellomiakoda wait, what? removal of 32-bit, as in, what, no longer doing Linux/i386?
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