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   Lilian Edwards (lilianedwards@someone.elses.computer)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Nov-2022 17:38:53 JST Lilian Edwards

   • Christina J Colclough

   Energy consumption of conventional cloud based tech vs decentralised models - or crudely, Twitter vs Mastodon - anyone got news, views? See this post https://saturation.social/@clive/109345164021273865 @cjcolclough which suggests as i anecdata knew that server farms & relevant cloud code are run with great efficiency - but how much energy does pervasive tracking use that we cld save?

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     藤井太洋, Taiyo Fujii (taiyo@ostatus.taiyolab.com)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Nov-2022 17:38:52 JST 藤井太洋, Taiyo Fujii

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     • Christina J Colclough

     @lilianedwards @cjcolclough Almost of all Mastodon servers are hosted in server farms like amazon web service, and sharing energy supplied to there. Hardware condition are same, then software? Centrized service is better.

     for example, my server runs only one account. server is 2GHz 1 core CPU with 2GB RAM, 20GB SSD and 1TB datastore (AWS t2.small type).

     100 accounts require 2GHz 2 core CPU with 8GB RAM, 100GB SSD and 2TB datastore.

     1,000 accounts require 2-4 servers.

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     藤井太洋, Taiyo Fujii (taiyo@ostatus.taiyolab.com)'s status on Tuesday, 15-Nov-2022 17:41:07 JST 藤井太洋, Taiyo Fujii

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     • Christina J Colclough

     @lilianedwards @cjcolclough And mastodon requires server communication, not necessary for Twitter.
     My server's 70% CPU cycle is spent for server communication right now.

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     IanStockport (ianstockport@mstdn.social)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 21:28:55 JST IanStockport

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     • 藤井太洋, Taiyo Fujii

     @taiyo Every instance paying do their own datastore that is mostly filled with the same readonly files as other instances seems pointless, when it should be possible to just play videos etc from their original source.

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     藤井太洋, Taiyo Fujii (taiyo@ostatus.taiyolab.com)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 21:45:06 JST 藤井太洋, Taiyo Fujii

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     • IanStockport

     @IanStockport You pointed redundancy, engineering hope to rid. But it’s not waste I think. Imagine when my posted movie got huge view on mastodon.social, I should pay thousands dollers for transporting which I don't use.
     This redundancy is which decentralized network cost in nature. In other words, natural born CDN.

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     藤井太洋, Taiyo Fujii (taiyo@ostatus.taiyolab.com)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 22:20:17 JST 藤井太洋, Taiyo Fujii

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     • IanStockport

     @IanStockport I got it, It's a real redundancy.
     But after 4.x, server can remove cache media files within setting. Storage size is not big issue for us.
     And I got idea that long cache sharing is effective with using low latency cloud storage.

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     IanStockport (ianstockport@mstdn.social)'s status on Saturday, 19-Nov-2022 22:20:18 JST IanStockport

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     • 藤井太洋, Taiyo Fujii

     @taiyo The issue is when a 101 small instances are all running in the same amazon data center and all paying to store the same file.

     Maybe the file should get copied to an instance after a set number of views by people on that instance.