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   feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Wednesday, 14-May-2025 03:27:36 JST feld

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   @m0xEE @adiz @pwm that's similar to how Signal does it as well, and I think iMessage(?). Probably Whatsapp for groups too. Makes most sense anyway.
   
   Fun part is that if the web hosting is not owned by the chat app team it has a potential for metadata leaks. Signal groups use CloudFlare, so you can just ask CloudFlare for the logs of who downloaded a file from their CDN and you get the IPs of all members of a Signal group. So you better hope that nobody has infiltrated your top secret anonymous anarchist chat group and shared a file because there's a way to unmask the members
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     👺防空識別區👹 (adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa)'s status on Wednesday, 14-May-2025 03:36:43 JST 👺防空識別區👹

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     @feld There are ways to unmask IPs, anyway. If the concern is about deanonymization or infiltration or loss of encryption then honestly the most likely threat in any system is a mole, not people pulling server logs from service providers or man-in-the-middle attacks, etc.. And, there is virtually no way to program or digitally defend yourself out of infiltration if you're running a group or organization. 🤷

     Luckily, we run our own websites and XMPP server, etc.. @pwm @m0xEE

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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Wednesday, 14-May-2025 03:44:58 JST feld

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     @adiz @pwm @m0xEE correct, you need to be able to trust all members for any security to work
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     👺防空識別區👹 (adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa)'s status on Wednesday, 14-May-2025 03:44:59 JST 👺防空識別區👹

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     @feld (You could have the best, most secure, most anonymous, most decentralized, zero access, log-less, bla bla bla app or protocol to run your illicit or nefarious agendas over and it means almost nothing if you're communicating with someone who is an agent of the state or an informant.) @pwm @m0xEE

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     m0xEE (m0xee@nosh0b10.m0xee.net)'s status on Wednesday, 14-May-2025 03:48:29 JST m0xEE

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     @feld@friedcheese.us @pwm@darkdork.dev @adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa
     So… careful screening? Spreading different pieces of information across different groups and watching what leaks? Taking their families hostages? 😈
     
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