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   Hollow Cанëк (solidsanek@outerheaven.club)'s status on Tuesday, 13-May-2025 16:40:45 JST Hollow Cанëк
   I'm barely managing to sleep at least 7h nowadays, but I don't feel that much better even when sleeping this much
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     eal (eal@post.ebin.club)'s status on Tuesday, 13-May-2025 16:48:22 JST eal

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     @solidsanek I feel the best with a full workday (7.5h) of sleep
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     Hollow Cанëк (solidsanek@outerheaven.club)'s status on Tuesday, 13-May-2025 16:49:09 JST Hollow Cанëк

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     @eal I've been sleeping around 5~6h every night for years, but I'm trying to change that and oh boy it is not easy. I'm also aiming for 7~8h of sleep currently
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     Len (len@nyan.network)'s status on Tuesday, 13-May-2025 17:44:07 JST Len

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     @solidsanek There's something with REM cycles where you have to get full ones and if you wake up inbetween it feels worse than if you'd woken up a bit earlier
     
     6 hours is okay-ish for me, 7 is bad, 8 is good, 10 is overkill but when I get 10 I really /needed/ 10... something like that.
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     Hollow Cанëк (solidsanek@outerheaven.club)'s status on Tuesday, 13-May-2025 17:45:57 JST Hollow Cанëк

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     @len Usually when I get 10 hours of sleep, it means I've been really sleep deprived for some time (when I run on 4~5h of sleep for a few days for example)
     
     I do wake up naturally (since I actually reach that point where I cannot sleep no matter how much I force myself) so I'm assuming I'm waking up after a full one
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     Hollow Cанëк (solidsanek@outerheaven.club)'s status on Tuesday, 13-May-2025 18:00:49 JST Hollow Cанëк

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     @len my efforts to sleep more/better actually involved making sure my room is completely dark, avoiding screens 30~60 minutes before going to bed, only using the bed to sleep (therefore not using my phone in bed), and more. I was thinking of getting a sleep mask to make sure not even a bit of light could affect my sleep yeah.
     
     I used to not even bother closing my curtains and letting myself wake up with the sunlight, but it's a bit more of a pain during summer for obvious reasons
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     Len (len@nyan.network)'s status on Tuesday, 13-May-2025 18:00:51 JST Len

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     @solidsanek hmm, something that happens to me (because I haven't invested in blackout curtains and I've lost my sleep mask) is that I get woken up by light. And light does not care about where you are in REM :cirno_cry: You might have ruled that out already but thought I'd mention in case.
     
     Sleep is hard and I wish you lots of luck in figuring it out!
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     Len (len@nyan.network)'s status on Tuesday, 13-May-2025 18:39:01 JST Len

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     @solidsanek If I did that in summer I'd always wake up at like... 4am... ... ... I should really prioritise getting that sleep mask back, I'm already waking up at 5-6 accidentally, room is on the side where the sun comes up so it'll get really bad soon :blobcat_ohnoes:
     
     Hearing can do it too, but earplugs can be super annoying so I only do that if I absolutely need to.
     
     There's also a frustrating balance that sleep plays with ambient stress and physical exhaustion and I still haven't figured that one out :puppycat_flop:
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