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    myrmepropagandist (futurebird@sauropods.win)'s status on Thursday, 08-May-2025 04:16:37 JST myrmepropagandist myrmepropagandist

    Reading about old crime cases from the 90s and even into the early 00s and police *really* believed that polygraph tests worked. Even in cases in tiny little towns they'd whip that thing out and make all kinds of wild inferences bases on what amounts to noise.

    Now and then you hear about one of them being used to this day.

    Absolutely wild and terrifying.

    There are still "experts" running around who claim they can teach cops about "body language" that will tell them who is lying.

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      Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 08-May-2025 04:16:34 JST Rich Felker Rich Felker
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      @troublewithwords @futurebird https://hachyderm.io/@dalias/114138162065075376

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        Cassandrich (@dalias@hachyderm.io)
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        @GottaLaff@mstdn.social Polygraphs are a perfect characterization of what this is all about. Anybody with an ounce of critical thinking and basic science background knows they can't possibly tell if someone is lying. And that's not the point. They're not to test if you're lying but to test if you're willing to go along with the lie that an authority can test if you're lying.
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      Steven Hoefer (troublewithwords@wandering.shop)'s status on Thursday, 08-May-2025 04:16:35 JST Steven Hoefer Steven Hoefer
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      @futurebird Polygraphs are still very popular with police and other security folks who apply them to prospective hires.

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      myrmepropagandist (futurebird@sauropods.win)'s status on Thursday, 08-May-2025 04:49:08 JST myrmepropagandist myrmepropagandist
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      @troublewithwords @dalias

      Witch dunking level thinking.

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      Steven Hoefer (troublewithwords@wandering.shop)'s status on Thursday, 08-May-2025 04:49:09 JST Steven Hoefer Steven Hoefer
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      @dalias @futurebird I know that the Secret Service is one of those that already do polygraphs on their own employees. The gov already has the equipment and "expertise".

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      Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 08-May-2025 04:50:19 JST Rich Felker Rich Felker
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      @futurebird @troublewithwords And that's why you refuse if asked to take one. You make it clear that it's not because you're nervous that you're lying, but that it's subjecting yourself to arbitrary judgement by someone who just wants to dictate your fate and launder responsibility for their decision through a bullshit ritual.

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      Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 08-May-2025 04:51:32 JST Rich Felker Rich Felker
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      @futurebird @troublewithwords Having written on this topic publicly in advance (like I'm doing now) is a good move because it gives you citable material that shows you've thought about this before and aren't just making up an excuse not to take it on the spot because you're lying.

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