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Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Apr-2025 12:20:06 JST Evan Prodromou

I'd like to play another videogame as narratively rich as Disco Elysium.

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  Joseph Szymborski :qcca: (jszym@cosocial.ca)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Apr-2025 12:31:01 JST Joseph Szymborski :qcca:
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  @evan Same. If you've never read The City & The City by China Miéville, I highly recommend it. There are clear influences of it in Disco Elysium, AND I also recommend it to Montrealers because I feel like it hits an even deeper level for people who navigate our two solitudes.
  
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  Mick 🇨🇦 (mick@cosocial.ca)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Apr-2025 20:23:23 JST Mick 🇨🇦
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  @evan the only game in which my character has been killed by self doubt… I’m still just a few hours in and it is incredible, unlike anything else.
  Dunno if anything compares, but this one is rapidly moving up my “to play” list: https://youtu.be/ejgW-upPMgk?si=tE4Rx-FBBbijMc4f
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    Once a year, the Paintress awakens to inscribe her cursed number on the monolith. And everyone of that age vanishes, turning to smoke, and fading into nothin...
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  Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 01-May-2025 01:16:52 JST Evan Prodromou
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  @jszym I love The City and The City!
  
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  Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 01-May-2025 01:30:15 JST Evan Prodromou
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  Here are the things I like about DE.
  1. VERY deep world -- a completely new model of reality, a full global history, and a full metaphysics -- that still maps to ideas I understand (alcoholism, socialist revolution).
  2. Deep understanding of human thought and human nature. The problems are real, existential, and life-changing. The inner voices mechanism is powerful.
  3. The array of characters and spaces to explore is really broad. It's worth the time to visit the different parts of the world.
  
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  Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 01-May-2025 02:30:26 JST Evan Prodromou
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  @maikek Two female characters talking to each other? No, I'm pretty sure there are not.
  
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  Maike (maikek@fedifreu.de)'s status on Thursday, 01-May-2025 02:30:28 JST Maike
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  @evan Is there something similar to the https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bechdel_test in DE (or games in general), and would it pass?
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    Bechdel test
    
    The Bechdel test ( BEK-dəl), also known as the Bechdel-Wallace test, is a measure of the representation of women in film and other fiction. The test asks whether a work features at least two women who have a conversation about something other than a man. Some versions of the test also require that those two women have names. A work of fiction passing or failing the test does not necessarily indicate the overall representation of women in the work. Instead, the test is used as an indicator for the active presence (or lack thereof) of women in fiction, and to call attention to gender inequality in fiction. The test is named after the American cartoonist Alison Bechdel, in whose 1985 comic strip Dykes to Watch Out For the test first appeared. Bechdel credited the idea to her friend Liz Wallace and the writings of Virginia Woolf. Originally meant as "a little lesbian joke in an alternative feminist newspaper", according to Bechdel, the test became more widely discussed in the 2000s, as a number of variants and tests inspired by it emerged. ...
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  Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 01-May-2025 02:48:58 JST Evan Prodromou
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  @maikek There are a lot of female characters, but the main character is always male, and the primary interactions are main character -> non-player character, so there's not a lot of interaction between NPCs. I think there are a couple of parent-child relationships, but their interactions are largely mediated through the player!
  
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  Maike (maikek@fedifreu.de)'s status on Thursday, 01-May-2025 02:48:59 JST Maike
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  @evan There is no test or there are no female characters?
  
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  Evan Prodromou (evan@cosocial.ca)'s status on Thursday, 01-May-2025 04:04:55 JST Evan Prodromou
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  @maikek yes, I get that!
  
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  Maike (maikek@fedifreu.de)'s status on Thursday, 01-May-2025 04:04:56 JST Maike
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  @evan /o\ I have my doubts concerning this "very deep world" ...
  
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