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   Kev Quirk (kev@fosstodon.org)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 01:08:40 JST Kev Quirk

   Um, when did the #Ubuntu image become 6GB???

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 01:08:39 JST 翠星石

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     @kev Fun alert; If you don't like what I point out, please prove me wrong (spoiler; I'm right).
     
     
     Since when they started to bundle a massive amount of proprietary software that takes the users freedom by default?; https://releases.ubuntu.com/24.04.2/ubuntu-24.04.2-desktop-amd64.list
     
     As you can see, the massive proprietary software collection of proprietary derivative works of Linux (with also a handful of free programs, with source code, under GPLv2-compatible terms) that is called "linux-firmware" is 344.9 MiB compressed; https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/20240318.git3b128b60-0ubuntu2
     
     There is also a lot of GPLv2-infringing proprietary malware from nvidia disguised as graphics drivers, for example, just *one* of the packages weighs at 291.7 MiB compressed; https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-550/550.120-0ubuntu0.24.04.1
     
     Also bundled is the proprietary intel sound card software collection, weighing at "only" 5.2MiB compressed; firmware-sof-signed_2023.12.1-1ubuntu1.4_all.deb (although it is probably source-available and partially under an "open source" development model, all non-SBC computers refuse to run the software unless it is signed with an intel signature, denying freedoms 0, 1 & rendering 3 moot; https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html#four-freedoms - therefore the software is rendered proprietary).
     
     Of course, bonus proprietary points from including GPLv2-incompatible Linux modules (zfs).
     
     
     I'm not interested in downloading 6GiB of iso to work out how many GiB of proprietary software there is, but you can see the size of (some of the) bundled proprietary malware from nvidia+broadcom with;
     7z x ubuntu.iso
     du -h pool/restricted/
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 01:15:13 JST 翠星石

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     • ikt 🇺🇦
     • Buck 🌱
     @masterbuck @kev @ikt >you can download 6 GB in under 12 minutes.
     That's assuming no overhead and no retransmissions.
     
     Assuming 6% overhead (arbitrarily chosen - generally overhead due to HTTP would be at least 10% I guess, but 70Mbit/second is entirely artificial throttling, considering 100BASE-TX is 27+ years old and 1000BASE-T is 25+ years old).
     
     Calculating with GNU units;
     You have: (70Mbit * 0.94)/second
     You want: minutes/6GB
     reciprocal conversion
     * 12.1580547112462
     So, it would take over 12 minutes, which is more than a ⅙th of an hour.
     
     For 6GiB files (i.e. the proper gigabyte, also known as gibibyte that works out to);
     You have: (70Mbit * 0.94)/second
     You want: minutes/6GiB
     reciprocal conversion
     * 13.0546118419453
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     Buck 🌱 (masterbuck@fosstodon.org)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 01:15:15 JST Buck 🌱

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     • ikt 🇺🇦

     @kev @ikt It’s no excuse to have a 6 GB iso, but with 70 mbps internet, a priori you can download 6 GB in under 12 minutes.

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     Kev Quirk (kev@fosstodon.org)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 01:15:16 JST Kev Quirk

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     • ikt 🇺🇦

     @ikt not when you have 70mbps internet :(

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     ikt 🇺🇦 (ikt@fosstodon.org)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 01:15:17 JST ikt 🇺🇦

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     @kev wake up old man it's 2025! I can download 6gb in like 15 minutes 😅

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 01:21:00 JST 翠星石

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     • FiveSpeed :cinnamon: :python:
     @fivespeed @kev Trisquel GNU/Linux-libre respects the users freedom and seems to be little more than half the size of Ubuntu for the MATE version; https://trisquel.info/en/download
     
     There is also Trisquel Mini, which is 1.5GiB.
     
     DE's have really bloated up recently, but at least the netinstall is still only 62 MiB (it was 49MiB in 10.0.1).
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     FiveSpeed :cinnamon: :python: (fivespeed@fosstodon.org)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 01:21:01 JST FiveSpeed :cinnamon: :python:

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     @kev #linuxmint is about half that. Just saying...

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 01:21:57 JST 翠星石

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     • ikt 🇺🇦
     • Buck 🌱
     @masterbuck @ikt @kev *generally overhead due to HTTP, plus the IP+TCP packet headers would be at least 10% I guess.