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   Luke T. Shumaker (lukeshu@fosstodon.org)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 00:12:04 JST Luke T. Shumaker

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   • Chad McCullough :debian:

   @cmccullough A lot of folks knew PHP when it was a truly terrible language, moved on to better languages, and then missed PHP getting good.

   PHP 5.3 (2009) is when PHP started to get good, and it's improved so much since then.

   Before 5.3, PHP very much felt like a terrible hack that *knew* it was a terrible hack but was well-maintained and fast anyway because a few important folks made the mistake of putting it into production. With 5.3, it started evolving toward a well-designed language.

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     Chad McCullough :debian: (cmccullough@discuss.systems)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 00:12:05 JST Chad McCullough :debian:

     Over the past month, I've been teaching myself #PHP, with the help from lots of videos, websites, and folks I follow here on Mastodon. I really don't understand all the negativity from other developers who don't use it. I mean, I understand those other developers use other languages, and they're obviously going to favor those languages that they are comfortable with using, but I still don't get the negativity.

     Many of the comments I get from developers that don't use PHP go something like, "Why PHP? It's dead."

     Man, I am really sick of that comment.