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   David Revoy (davidrevoy@framapiaf.org)'s status on Sunday, 27-Apr-2025 16:48:18 JST David Revoy

   Surprising to see Youtuber PewDiePie (110M subscribers) publishing a video last night , "I installed Linux (so should you)" with a call to his community to join the platform, underlining the fun of customisation and DIY, in opposition to all the enshitification of Windows. His main point of friction for moving was Photoshop, and he explained how he made the effort to adapt GIMP to his needs. Always good to see initiatives like that shared to large audience.

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVI_smLgTY0

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     Loy Hena (loyhena@eldritch.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 27-Apr-2025 16:48:16 JST Loy Hena

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     @davidrevoy
     Getting new people to Linux is good but pewdiepie is well known to have a part of his community being fascists, so that also means more fascists to come to the Linux world. Be careful on forums.

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     Loy Hena (loyhena@eldritch.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 27-Apr-2025 16:54:31 JST Loy Hena

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     @davidrevoy
     No worries :) I should know because I used to be part of his community before, but i know its not common knowledge which is why I take the time to warn about it !

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     David Revoy (davidrevoy@framapiaf.org)'s status on Sunday, 27-Apr-2025 16:54:33 JST David Revoy

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     • Loy Hena

     @loyhena Thank you for the information.

     I thought about this eventuality and I thought I was cautious by visiting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PewDiePie before posting, but quickly haven't found any "controversial" chapter and after quickly browsing, I thought the guy was more or less ok. My error. I probably should have read all the long page ( now I see it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PewDiePie#2017%E2%80%932018:_Media_controversies,_streaming,_and_formatted_shows ). A proof I don't know really the influencer except of being a "famous video game YouTuber". My bad!

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     lertsenem (lertsenem@mastodon.lertsenem.com)'s status on Sunday, 27-Apr-2025 17:34:55 JST lertsenem

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     @davidrevoy Wow. Windows 11 truly is doing god's work in regard to Linux desktop promotion huh.

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     LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿 (lukealmighty@gameliberty.club)'s status on Sunday, 27-Apr-2025 19:11:50 JST LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿

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     • Loy Hena

     @loyhena @davidrevoy
     Can you please for 10 fucking minutes just let people live their lives and not make every good thing political?

     Do you really hate open source so hard, that you need 1/2 of the population bullied out of using them?

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 27-Apr-2025 21:30:41 JST 翠星石

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     • hermlon
     @hermlon >and explains everything correctly.
     No he does not.
     
     It appears that he knows Linux is only a kernel and therefore it appears he intentionally explained many things wrong.
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     hermlon (hermlon@yuustan.space)'s status on Sunday, 27-Apr-2025 21:30:42 JST hermlon

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     @davidrevoy wow, I'm completely mind blown. He has an actually beautiful setup there and explains everything correctly.

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 27-Apr-2025 21:32:23 JST 翠星石

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     • Loy Hena
     @LukeAlmighty @loyhena It would only be a good thing if people didn't use "open source" ((not actually) source-available proprietary software) and instead used free software.
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     LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿 (lukealmighty@gameliberty.club)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 01:55:25 JST LukeAlmighty 🇨🇿

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     • Loy Hena

     @Suiseiseki @loyhena
     What do you mean?

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     David Revoy (davidrevoy@framapiaf.org)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 18:10:15 JST David Revoy

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     @rickyx I understand, but it is an easy dilemma and all come down to: "should we praise the good actions of someone who did shitty stuff in the past (or continue to do it)."

     I'm on the team of 'yes', especially if the action has impact, well done, and I think this is one path to escape a polarisation/manichaeism effect. But still! Acknowledging and informing about what this person did for context, and sharing about it is also important. My first post was incomplete in this regard.

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     Rickyx (rickyx@fosstodon.org)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 18:10:18 JST Rickyx

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     @davidrevoy Does the quality of the message of this particular video quoted depend on the moral conduct of the person enunciating it?
     If so, very few people could say good things. Could we therefore infer from the criticism of Stallman that his message is false, or immoral, or do we not accept his fans?
     Yet the GPL says precisely that you are free, even to use Linux to drive a bomb (...already done) or to advertise fascism (... already done).
     Not that I agree with it, at all.

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     David Revoy (davidrevoy@framapiaf.org)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 18:10:19 JST David Revoy

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     Btw, about the link I shared before, read also this https://fe.disroot.org/notice/AtV9EJPnlC4eyOxS1g if like me, you don't know PewDiePie. ( And also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PewDiePie#2017%E2%80%932018:_Media_controversies,_streaming,_and_formatted_shows ). 😔 Mea culpa for not doing my research before sharing.

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     David Revoy (davidrevoy@framapiaf.org)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 18:50:59 JST David Revoy

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     @alice @hermlon Ok, I just read that https://drewdevault.com/2023/09/17/Hyprland-toxicity.html , and it can't be just a coincidence that among all the whole variety of DE/compositor he did choose to highlight a project like that ... 😔

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     Alice :neocat_trans_cute:‮ (alice@mk.nyaa.place)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 18:51:01 JST Alice :neocat_trans_cute:‮

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     @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @hermlon@yuustan.space omfg, ofc it's hyprland - known for the main dev being such a notorious bigot that he got banned from freedesktop.org gitlab

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     David Revoy (davidrevoy@framapiaf.org)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 18:51:03 JST David Revoy

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     • hermlon

     @hermlon Yes, not just a video of "wow, I ran a Live ISO of Mint, and it's cool." but a video of someone who put hands in Hyprland customisation on Arch, and took time to already adapt his needs.

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     HellPie (hellpie@raru.re)'s status on Monday, 28-Apr-2025 19:44:35 JST HellPie

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     @davidrevoy tbh Hyprland is actually really cool, the code from what i know is dogshit, the developer is dogshit, some of the design decisions being take are dogshit, but the end user result is astonishingly good to the point that it makes me sad that I can't morally justify using it given I know too much about how bad it is.

     Hyprland is by all metrics offering an incredibly polished, endlessly customizable, extremely high quality end user experience that has a gigantic community offering plugins for nearly everything a user might want to do and also has cemented itself as an incredible DE that allows it to have effectively first-party support from major distros.

     That last bit and the fact that all of the shitstirring is happening within internal channels, personal blogs etc allows Hyprland to keep marketing itself on the objective quality of the end result without users ever knowing that the dev is a fucking neonazi.

     I would wager the people who know are a miniscule percentage of the userbase, even including past users that stopped using it, the amount of people that left because one time some unique Steam games broke on Hyprland because of code that the maintainers refused to fix is by itself outweighing the amount of people who are aware of the maintainership's actual political alignment, regardless if they care or not.

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