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@nemesis @arcana @meeper marxies are mostly wagies angry their boss won't give them a raise.
cyberneticists are something else entirely.
anarchists are infamous for being unable to form meaningful blocs :neocat_woozy:
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@melonhusk @arcana @nemesis @meeper i haven't met very many self styled socialists who have plans to return manufacturing to the community, but a lot of them that basically just want high tax nanny states. :neocat_woozy:
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@icedquinn @arcana @nemesis @meeper I think it's inherently dishonest to obfuscate why marxism and socialist thought is prominent in parts of the world that were/are currently plundered.
It's fairly obvious to me why so much of the west opposes such ideologies, they don't want to lose the material gains of the exploitation they directly benefit from. Also the reason there's no serious leftist faction in the states, they're too busy participating in bourgeoisie tendencies themselves.
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@mrsaturday @arcana @nemesis @melonhusk @meeper > the populist moment (book)
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@melonhusk @icedquinn @arcana @nemesis @meeper >Also the reason there's no serious leftist faction in the states, they're too busy participating in bourgeoisie tendencies themselves.
Any attempt to cobble one together either gets subverted or defanged. You'll find that happens very often with anything that has the potential to bring about change, the American system squeezes it into silence, whether it's embracing and lovebombing it until it's no different than the status quo, or strangling it in the cradle. Look at OWS and how it was skinsuited, or what happened to Fred Hampton when he started trying to reform the Black Panthers and make it about combatting poverty rather than racial grievances.
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