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   GrapheneOS (grapheneos@grapheneos.social)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Apr-2025 02:45:41 JST GrapheneOS

   The leader of the /e/OS project and Murena company, Gaël Duval, has been ramping up his attacks on GrapheneOS. His community has been engaging in an increasing level of harassment towards our team including in response to our post on Mastodon about one of our senior developers being conscripted.

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     faebudo (faebudo@ioc.exchange)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Apr-2025 02:45:32 JST faebudo

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     @GrapheneOS I think the problem is that I am only seeing your side as I am following you on mastodon and don't follow them anywhere. So my timeline is full of you saying that you are harassed but I am not aware of the harassment you are experiencing.

     I don't know if it would be a good idea to make public those false claims and attacks or if it would support the attackers, but as I said at the moment I only see you and never saw the attacks.
     Just as in a domestic violence cases where outsiders only see the victim snapping but not the attacks it would maybe good to have a diary collecting evidence on the attacks.

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     GrapheneOS (grapheneos@grapheneos.social)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Apr-2025 02:45:33 JST GrapheneOS

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     • faebudo

     @faebudo Their false claims about our team and harassment towards us are not something other people bother to debunk or counter. That leaves us to defend ourselves from it.

     How do you expect us to debunk their baseless claims about our team members and community based on fabrications and spin? They do not provide evidence for it but rather engage in DARVO tactics. It's our rooms getting raided, our developers being harassed and swatted, etc. The groups doing this are the toxic communities.

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     GrapheneOS (grapheneos@grapheneos.social)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Apr-2025 02:45:34 JST GrapheneOS

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     • faebudo

     @faebudo Adding sections to our FAQ explaining that fabricated claims about our project and team members aren't true doesn't really make much sense. For that to make sense, it has to be in the context of responding to the people doing it. Their focus is on attacking our team members with fabricated stories, spin and name calling. They do not focus on technical aspects and that's not the problem. Their false claims about technical things, usability, compatibility, etc. are widely debunked.

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     GrapheneOS (grapheneos@grapheneos.social)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Apr-2025 02:45:35 JST GrapheneOS

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     • faebudo

     @faebudo Making a long form article responding to attacks from /e/OS is us defending ourselves. /e/OS and Murena have been attacking GrapheneOS for years because they feel threatened by the fact that GrapheneOS is highly usable and provides broader app compatibility. They cannot accept that and insist on trying to pretend that's not the case to steer people towards their products. They're giving up on that angle and resorting to attacks on our team members based on harassment content.

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     faebudo (faebudo@ioc.exchange)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Apr-2025 02:45:36 JST faebudo

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     @GrapheneOS I think it is always ill-advised attacking competitors, no matter the reason.
     It would be better from my viewpoint when GrapheneOS had a FAQ page listing the points that are listed against them and the answer to rebut the point including references to code/forum posts etc supporting it. So I don't have to search for social media for it but can refer to this FAQ page instead.

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     GrapheneOS (grapheneos@grapheneos.social)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Apr-2025 02:45:36 JST GrapheneOS

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     • faebudo

     @faebudo /e/OS is hardly a competitor to GrapheneOS. It's a non-hardened OS project substantially reducing privacy and security compared to AOSP. It doesn't provide the basic Android privacy and security patches. It would make more sense to refer to Apple as a competitor. They make reasonably private and secure devices which have both advantages and disadvantages in those regards along with having better rather than worse usability. Apple has also never tried harming us with attacks.

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     GrapheneOS (grapheneos@grapheneos.social)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Apr-2025 02:45:37 JST GrapheneOS

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     We're starting work on a long form article about /e/OS and Murena demonstrating how they're falsely marketing extraordinarily insecure and non-private software without even basic privacy/security patches or protections. They're scamming both Murena customers and governments providing large grants.

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     GrapheneOS (grapheneos@grapheneos.social)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Apr-2025 02:45:38 JST GrapheneOS

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     This is a very serious situation which involves the escalation of existing violence towards our team including swatting attacks. If there is anyone at all reasonable at /e/OS or Murena, they should do everything in their power to stop Gaël Duval's attacks on us before he escalates this further.

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     GrapheneOS (grapheneos@grapheneos.social)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Apr-2025 02:45:39 JST GrapheneOS

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     Gaël Duval has been regularly engaging with and boosting harassment content targeting us from Kiwi Farms users and their supporters. His supporters are now doing this at a large scale. The other people at /e/OS and Murena are complicit in this harassment towards our team, as are their partners.

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     GrapheneOS (grapheneos@grapheneos.social)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Apr-2025 02:45:39 JST GrapheneOS

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     It's very clear they plan on ramping this up further by pushing their false narratives and fabrications about us on a larger scale. It will likely be heavily based on existing content pushing fabrications about our team, which they'll promote even more to their community to coordinate harassment.

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     GrapheneOS (grapheneos@grapheneos.social)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Apr-2025 02:45:40 JST GrapheneOS

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     Gaël Duval has been making false and misleading claims about GrapheneOS for years with the aim of steering people away from it. In response to us debunking these claims, he's now increasingly engaging in targeting our other senior developer with harassment based on fabricated stories about them.

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     keen (keen@ieji.de)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Apr-2025 02:45:46 JST keen

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     • faebudo

     @faebudo @GrapheneOS
     It is the same for me. I only follow GrapheneOS. I see the Drama only from you in my time line. I am not able to check any claims. I trust the recommendations of @kuketzblog

     In the end it boils down for me which smartphone I have. If I can put GrapheneOS on it, I do it, if not I choose the next best thing. On a Fairphone it would be this other OS. On my Poco F3 it was DivestOS. It's a shame thought, DivestOS is no more.

     This puplic fighting is tiresome.

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     s94 (s94@social.vivaldi.net)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Apr-2025 02:45:57 JST s94

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     @GrapheneOS Is there a version of GrapheneOS for Fairphone 4 ?

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     Death by Lambda (xdydx@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 23-Apr-2025 02:46:40 JST Death by Lambda

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     @GrapheneOS
     I believe you, but I you have receipts..

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