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   Bojidar Marinov (bojidar_bg@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 20-Apr-2025 18:07:43 JST Bojidar Marinov

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   • eliseo

   @eliseo01 No offense, but, even if I did stay away from Arch for those reasons, my admiration would still go to software that makes life easier and bearable for humans - even humans that end up using proprietary software.
   As of today, free software package managers like pacman, chocolatey, or homebrew deliver a thousand times better experience than any competing proprietary solution, and I'd rather celebrate that win, than bemoan the fact that it also makes proprietary software easier to use.

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     eliseo (eliseo01@fe.disroot.org)'s status on Sunday, 20-Apr-2025 18:07:43 JST eliseo

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     @bojidar_bg
     
     > No offense
     
     I could never be offended by the same regurgitated, pushover opinion I've seen countless times from corporate code monkeys whose sole aspiration is to get hired by big tech to print countless lines of proprietary software while preaching "open source", something they don't even follow by example.
     
     People like you -with a too lax opinion on the issue-, are partly responsible of the miserable state of affairs with technology, people too spineless to say 'no' and value principles over convenience.
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     Bojidar Marinov (bojidar_bg@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 20-Apr-2025 18:07:45 JST Bojidar Marinov

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     • Andrew Woods
     • kristof

     @krisfreedom @awoodsnet Okay, I checked 😅; here's the relevant issue for redis: https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages/redis/-/issues/1/ - apparently the same happened with MongoDB, when they adopted SSPL.
     The main issue at hand seems to be licenses that limit the _distribution_ of the software, in ways that make package maintainers potentially liable. Discord is in only because Arch got permission to distribute it (https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages/discord/-/blob/main/Permission_to_Distribute.mbox?ref_type=heads), and Vivaldi likewise partners with Linux distributions (https://vivaldi.com/partners/linux/).

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     eliseo (eliseo01@fe.disroot.org)'s status on Sunday, 20-Apr-2025 18:07:45 JST eliseo

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     • Andrew Woods
     • kristof
     @bojidar_bg @krisfreedom @awoodsnet
     
     One of the plethora of reasons to stay as far away from Arch as possible; distribution of proprietary and malicious software and cooperating with unethical groups such as Discord.
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     Bojidar Marinov (bojidar_bg@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 20-Apr-2025 18:07:47 JST Bojidar Marinov

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     • Andrew Woods

     @awoodsnet The magic is in the package managers: redis moving to AUR means that anyone using e.g. `yay` won't feel the difference, while users of `pacman` that stick to official repositories would just get a warning that the package doesn't exist, yet nothing would be deinstalled.

     ...that said, still somewhat surprised at the move, given that obviously-proprietary software like Discord exists in the `extra` repository. 🤔

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     kristof (krisfreedom@fe.disroot.org)'s status on Sunday, 20-Apr-2025 18:07:47 JST kristof

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     • Andrew Woods
     @bojidar_bg @awoodsnet discord... on extra repository? and there's vivaldi
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     Andrew Woods (awoodsnet@phpc.social)'s status on Sunday, 20-Apr-2025 18:07:49 JST Andrew Woods

     wow! A 14-day transition period to deprecate and remove Redis. That feels very fast.

     Maybe Arch people are used to moving that fast?

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