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   asbestosenjoyer666 (melonhusk@new.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 17-Apr-2025 09:14:40 JST asbestosenjoyer666
   I wish that folks would just admit that many discussions revolving around theoretical AGI are eugenicist in nature
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     Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 17-Apr-2025 09:14:39 JST Fish of Rage

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     @melonhusk what do you mean?
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     Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 17-Apr-2025 15:55:49 JST Fish of Rage

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     @meso @melonhusk ethereum use of power is negligible
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     meso (meso@new.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 17-Apr-2025 15:55:51 JST meso

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     @melonhusk @sun interestingly lots of people shat on cryptocurrency for its environmental impact when i mean yeah thats how it works its pretty energy hungry. but then when OpenAI was found to use like im pretty sure what amounts to a small country's reserves level amounts of water it gets a few articles and people shut up. the environmental shit remains the largest argument against crypto in mainstream libshit communities. i mean crypto is just lame man you dont need a fancy performative reason to despise shit like that
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     meso (meso@new.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 17-Apr-2025 15:55:54 JST meso

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     @melonhusk @sun they all just sound the same which is why i feel there might be some language code enforced on these topics
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     meso (meso@new.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 17-Apr-2025 15:55:55 JST meso

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     @melonhusk @sun like are they trying to sound like they're intellectuals? is this some kind of code enforced in academia tackling anti-corporate subjects? like, you HAVE to just mention the adversely affecting racial and gender minorities etc etc and environmental impact and maaaybe you can sprinkle in some centralization but THAT'S IT!
     
     is that even article material when you're just stating what anybody can see? it seems like filler, except for the eugenicist stuff which is a new argument
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     meso (meso@new.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 17-Apr-2025 15:55:56 JST meso

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     @melonhusk @sun > As a result, many of the very same discriminatory attitudes that animated eugenicists in the past (e.g., racism, xenophobia, classism, ableism, and sexism) remain widespread within the movement to build AGI, resulting in systems that harm marginalized groups and centralize power, while using the language of “safety” and “benefiting humanity” to evade accountability.
     I don't like when they have this much jargon, just say they're evil fucks that want to fuck regular people and the disadvantaged over. it sounds so performative I don't think they'll get anything done when they talk like that
     
     >The AGI race fueled by the TESCREAList goal to build “transhuman minds” (Goertzel, 2010) and bring about “unlimited intelligence” has also resulted in systems that consume more and more resources in terms of data and compute power. This leads to a high environmental impact, increases the risks that arise due to the lack of appropriate scoping discussed earlier, and results in the centralization of power among a handful of entities.
     i really don't see how it matters it's gonna have a "high environmental impact" and "increases the risks that arise"
     
     >As detailed by a number of scholars, both the environmental impacts and the unsafe outputs of these systems disproportionately affect marginalized groups like racial and gender minorities, disabled people, and citizens of developing countries bearing the brunt of the climate catastrophe (Bender and Gebru, et al., 2021). The AGI race not only perpetuates these harms to marginalized groups, but it does so while depleting resources from these same groups to pursue the race. Resources that could go to many entities around the world, each building computational systems that serve the needs of specific communities, are being siphoned away to a handful of corporations trying to build AGI.
     
     so much mention about how climate catastrophe is gonna affect minorities as if that's an argument that needs to be made given that... it's a climate catastrophe. yes, it will affect minorities. and POOR people. they only seem to mention the centralization and massive corporate control aspects of AI as a PS rather than one of the most important things.
     
     I probably agree with the whole article I just don't like the way things are written nowadays. I mean, it's just so many euphemisms. They want to kill the poor, just say it the way it is.
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     asbestosenjoyer666 (melonhusk@new.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 17-Apr-2025 15:55:58 JST asbestosenjoyer666

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     @sun I can't put it any better into words than this article has https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/13636