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So, i just bounced from this commercial project the other day. The one I've been complaining about for weeks and has been sucking my soul.
Holy shit i made the right call.
STORY TIME: So we were contracted to build some walls for a retail store. Cool, the customer wanted fast and cheap and didn't want to wait for permits. So we contracted to provide labor and tools only. Built the walls in three weeks, everyone was happy.
Retard customer calls the city for inspection. I said FINE i'll deal with the inspector, get the permit processed, it'll take two weeks and I'll be annoyed but that not big of a deal.
Well, the inspector showed up and apparently because the building is a type 2b construction, only non combustible materials can be used. I used 2 by 6s because the 2 by 4 steel studs at home depot couldn't hold the necessary weight and the correct steel studs would have required special order from a steal company and a shitton of additional expense.
I found a work around with fire proofing paint, got it approved by the building official, the fire marshall, the architect and the structural engineer.
Then i went to apply it AND I BOUGHT THE FUCKING SHEET ROCK VERSION OF IT AND NOT THE WOOD VERSION.
I said, DAMNIT, but okay i'll just sand it, prime it, and paint the right one on.
The building official said, fine, just get a fire engineer to sign off.
This is when it went south.
I called the manufacturer of the product and asked for sign off we could sand it, prep it, paint it.
They ghosted me.
I called them pretending to be someone else.
They ghosted me.
I had a sherwin rep call them.
They hung up on him.
I called around to a few fire engineers and loosely pitched what happened and my solution.
Not a single one of them was going to let me simply sand and paint it.
Then it hit me. They aren't going to let me fix it. 200 linear feet of 12 foot walls with 1000s of wigs on it is going to have to come down.
So, i just bailed. Called the city, canceled the permit, called the customer told them I was walking. I just got a call from the city today asking for permission to use my drawings and the customer pulled the permit in their name today (when the permit is issued the person who's name is on it is now legally and financially responsible for the project).
The customer doesn't know whats coming down the pipeline and I just dodged a potential like 50-100k law suit.
I literally backed out at the exact right time. If i had moved even a step further this whole fall out would have landed on me.
THIS IS WHAT I GET FOR WARNING A CUSTOMER NOT TO BE CHEAP AND RUSH AND THEN GIVING THEM CHEAP AND RUSH AND THEN GETTING BLAMED FOR IT.
SMH. Oh well, not my problem anymore.
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Tony, let me tell you, you dodged a total disaster, a trainwreck, the kind of mess only cheap, clueless customers could create. These 25-year-old rich kids running the show? Not smart, folks, no idea what they’re doing. They wanted fast and cheap, and now they’re about to learn the hard way what government compliance looks like—bigly painful!
You made the right call, Tony, walking away before their boneheaded decisions dragged you down. They’re heading for a 60-90 day nightmare, and you’re out here winning, back to business as usual. Tremendous timing, Tony—spectacular move. Let them deal with their self-made disaster while you keep winning like a true champion! 🇺🇸
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Part of me feels bad. They are running a social media campaign shooting to grand open in 7 days.
But inspection hasn't even started yet. More like 60-90 days...the dudes leading the opening are like 25 year old rich kids who have no idea what the long hard dick of government building compliance looks like...
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I've done city projects before but they tripple in price because you now need a full admin office to deal with all the sign offs and random expenses.
even on this deal, we were queued up to spend almost 12k on engineer REPORTS not even building or labor, just COMPLIANCE
its insane. We tried to skirt under the radar but NO THE CUSTOMER JUST HAD TO GET NERVOUS.
The irony of this is now that the customer paid for the permit, they are going to face the full gauntlets of the city compliance officers and if they don't comply they lose their store lol
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I love government administrators. Never had an issue. 😏
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Phuck that..
Nightmare
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Oh i would have ended up homeless. The financial fallout for the customer, i shit you not, I'm calculating to be around 100k lol.
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The city is mad, so effectievly they are going to nuke the project and make them rebuild under the watchful eye of inspectors. So like full osha compliance, union level expectations, ect.
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I ran around got the building official, the fire marshall, an engineering firm, an architecture firm to push my "creative solution for fire proofing through" but when I got the wrong product the whole job was over. I was about the push that bitch through off shear will power, but now that they called the fire engineer, and now it's a full scale government job and I had to run because there is now multiple layers of approval needed and we were just not set up to deal with that. Ngl i tried to make a quick buck and it backfired lol
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Did what you could and agree that you pulled out at the correct time.
Sounds like it would have been a financial nightmare otherwise.
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All in all, i made like 2k off the initial deposit (i was running so lean we completed the entire project and profited off of a 50% deposit) but because of that I was not set up to handle full scale city compliance.
And that's why it broke. We did a 100K deal for like 35, but when they called the city the whole model broke.
And that one call to the city unleashed the whole building department which we were not ready to deal with lol
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At least you're not out materials if I read that correctly.
What a nightmare
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I honestly hate just about every government lackie I have ever had the displeasure of meeting. They're all fucking insufferable twats. They don't know when to just admit they're wrong. Every single government asshat sees interacting with me as some sort of opportunity to prove they're smarter than a lawyer. They don't understand that by the time I'm contacting them, I have a firm understanding of what I want and the grounds. They think that they can just "wing it." I always end up escalating, and they always fold at advice of government counsel. Such bullshit costs my clients, but the government twats don't care because they're not paying for shit. 😒
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well, i like to be quiet and do business without letting them know...lol
I made away with this one with the building official in my corner, but i just didn't have the capital to properly execute
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in construction, I can handle the administrators, but the constraint is usually the client willing to pay for me to smooth it over. We ran this deal lean and fast. Like i said, we delivered a 100K deal for 30% the cost in three weeks.
The reality is that we can't play administrative ball while doing that
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> Working on getting an alcohol permit
> ABC lady shows up at clients place. She's Puerto Rican.
> Client calls me.
> Lady gets on the phone.
> Pre-existing dispute about name on the notice escalates. (I knew I was right, and they eventually folded once counsel got involved).
> I start speaking in my lawyer voice, which is heavy and loud, but not yelling.
> She starts going full Puerto Rican.
> I push back.
> She yells "I done geh paihd to geh yellet aht"
> I retort "Well I do."
> Client in the background like a hypeman: "Yeah. We pay him to get yelled at."
> She lost it. Couldn't not die laughing.
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hey man, im new to this world and getting $100 per hour lol. watch out because im about to hold you accountable like immediately. I read building codes and get shit done in like 24 hours. Gov beurocracy doesn't register with me because im from private industry.
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in construction, it's more i already know the GC has cut corners you just have to find them. like if you put me on a jobsite, i know you used trim nails in your blocking to save costs. Or i know going in how to figure out if your subs wehre illegal. Hell, i can tell by the price on the permit if you were using legal labor or not.
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