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   Light (light@noc.social)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Apr-2025 05:51:12 JST Light

   This is fucked up: https://www.change.org/p/demand-spotify-remove-andrew-tate-s-harmful-courses-on-how-to-traffic-women

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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Apr-2025 05:51:12 JST djsumdog

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     I haven't kept up with the Tate stuff. Don't really care about him. Dude seem kinda like a dick. From what I can tell, what he did was probably illegal in Romania, but probably not in the US.
     
     As far as "tricking" girls using the "Romeo" method, look: does a woman have agency or does she not? Can she make her own choices or can she not?
     
     If you lie to an adult and mislead them in order to extra money from them, that's a scam and it's illegal. If you tell a girl you love her, then ask her to star is some porn ... like, the girl can say no. Or cant' she? Why can't she?
     
     People can't have it both ways. Either women have no agency and need to be protected from everything, or they're independent adults who have to deal with the consequences of their own decisions.
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     ≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Apr-2025 05:51:42 JST ≠

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     • Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged)
     @taylan @light
     
     That is almost always a bad idea, except for CP.
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     Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged) (taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Apr-2025 05:51:43 JST Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged)

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     @light I think this is one of the situations in which freedom of speech can be suspended...
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     Light (light@noc.social)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Apr-2025 05:51:44 JST Light

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     • Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged)

     @taylan
     On second thoughts, I looked on Spotify and can't find it.
     Is it real?

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     Light (light@noc.social)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Apr-2025 05:51:44 JST Light

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     • Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged)

     @taylan
     Ah. This is why:
     https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/andrew-tate-podcast-spotify_uk_67d2e964e4b0180744f7a80c

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     Light (light@noc.social)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Apr-2025 05:51:45 JST Light

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     cc: @taylan

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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Apr-2025 06:20:42 JST djsumdog

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     Isn't this the same thing?

     No? A scam is when someone calls you and is like "I'm from your bank. I need your 2FA to fix this issue with your account." They're intending to cause you fraud.

     If someone says to a girl, "I love you," and then two weeks later, "Hey baby, you should camwhore to earn some money," now you need to prove intent. You can't argue in court, "He lied to her about loving her," because you can't prove what's in his head.

     There was some podcast where a Canadian girl went into a brothel not knowing what type of job it was. The woman said, "We fuck for money." She left, but came back because of the money and she had $60k in debt. Then she cried about being a victim of a predatory sex industry.

     Bitch, you came back knowing exactly what it was. You caused your credit card debt! You are not a victim.

     I haven't actually watched any of Tate's courses and am relying on secondhand sources.

     Yea same here. I can't stand listening to the guy talk. Seems like a dick. If he like locked up the girls, or took their passports .. then yea, that's actual kidnapping. If he let them keep all their stuff and they're saying they're victims, even though they could pick up all their stuff and money and just leave at any time, they're not a victim.

     But I dunno about his case specifically. Don't really care what happens to him.

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     Light (light@noc.social)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Apr-2025 06:20:43 JST Light

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     If I'm missing something it's probably because I haven't actually watched any of Tate's courses and am relying on secondhand sources.

     @djsumdog

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     Light (light@noc.social)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Apr-2025 06:20:44 JST Light

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     • djsumdog

     @djsumdog
     >If you lie to an adult and mislead them in order to extra money from them, that's a scam and it's illegal. If you tell a girl you love her, then ask her to star in some porn ... like, the girl can say no. Or cant' she? Why can't she?
     Isn't this the same thing?

     >lie to an adult
     >tell a girl you love her [when you actually don't]

     >and mislead them in order to extract money from them
     >then ask her to star in some porn [presumably while making money off it]

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     djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Thursday, 10-Apr-2025 05:17:40 JST djsumdog

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     Here's the interview if you're interested. I didn't make it far; girl was insufferable. Some of the video comments on her victim mentality are great:
     
     https://youtu.be/SbrGqKvrnko
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     Light (light@noc.social)'s status on Thursday, 10-Apr-2025 05:17:41 JST Light

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     @djsumdog I'm not sure what the connection is between prostitution and coming into debt. And if I (27M) am ignorant of that, probably so could she.

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     Light (light@noc.social)'s status on Thursday, 10-Apr-2025 05:17:41 JST Light

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     @djsumdog Especially if she can't recognise a brothel when she sees one.

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     Light (light@noc.social)'s status on Thursday, 10-Apr-2025 05:17:45 JST Light

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     >Yea same here. I can't stand listening to the guy talk.
     I knew I wasn't interested from the moment I heard he was all about "hustling" and getting rich and living that kind of lifestyle.

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