The base distribution doesn't come with enough for my own server needs, id definitely want postgres and no one has thought of including that in 15.0 yet
@jae Just have a minor fixation on Slackware since fanboys speak so highly about it. I figured it had to be the holy grail for me with the Unix philosophy stuff but turns out less so.
@nyanide the onky issue i can see with that concept is the buoldibg and maintaining everything u need is too hogh volume for one person to handle effectively and live thoer own lofe,lestu got paid to do that and only that and even then youd need am incredible amount of devotion and time devotion to make that work
@jae It's nice if you are stuck in the past since it includes everything a 1993 Linux user could ever want, (that's what being an updated version of SLS does to you) but I am a zoomer and I'm fine with settling for something like Gentoo which makes me grab all my stuff from a centralized much bigger repository of software. I can roll out my own portage overlays if I wanted to maintain extra repositories for software that's missing from the official stuff.
@dcc See, modern distributions have more stuff in officially vetted repositories and the people maintaining that stuff go through a lucrative process to become a maintainer of the popular distros repos, and then they have to submit stuff like GPG keys and such and now it's easy to rely on these things with little worry.
Slackbuilds and other community repositories probably don't have such a bulletproof process and there are thousands of maintainers with Gmail/yahoo addresses and that makes me uncomfortable.
@dcc If you don't mind that, you start having to start looking at diffs whenever there is an update from the community members to make sure there isn't any funny business going on in new build script updates and at that point you are actually physically maintaining a build server. It's too much work for me.
> It's nice if you are stuck in the past since it includes everything a 1993
goddamn what a year!
> I am a zoomer
goddamn, what a year! i'm old enough to be your grandfather, jit
> and I'm fine with settling for something like Gentoo which makes me grab all my stuff from a centralized much bigger repository of software. I can roll out my own portage overlays if I wanted to maintain extra repositories for software that's missing from the official stuff.
you think gentoo is fun? you should have seen when it was released and we ran emerge on 256mb (yep, you read it right) of ram.
if i'm getting what you're putting down, you sound like you'd benefit from a minimal system and just maintain your own vcs and pkg repo?
i'm currently running a mix of alpine and bsd and doing exactly that. i'm close to saying "fuck you carl" to packagers. btw i have no idea who carl is
@jae >if i'm getting what you're putting down, you sound like you'd benefit from a minimal system and just maintain your own vcs and pkg repo?
If I were to benefit from such a system I would have a legitimate reason to use Slackware, it's the perfect system for something like that. But there's no benefits to it and I would like to steer clear from intensive manual labor doing those sorts of things.
@nyanide I think you need to read more, first there is no such "vetting" process, second slackbuids are only build files the software is downloaded by you, third slackbuilds are checked before they uploaded. You should read every update by every distro if you are thinking this way.
@nyanide@dcc >I'm pretty sure only people with debian.org addresses are uploading to the debian apt repos, and vice versa with other modern distros. jamie pull up the changelogs from people who update some trash build nobody uses twice a year to keep their gentoo.org mailbox