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   Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 31-Mar-2025 05:35:06 JST Adrianna Tan

   Read someone say they were tired of living paycheck
   to paycheck in London, so they were hoping to move to Hong Kong or Singapore or Sydney. Grass is greener, etc, but it’s wild to think people think life will be any different in any other global and major city (especially not when you don’t get paid more for being ‘foreign’ in these places anymore)

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     Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 31-Mar-2025 05:36:58 JST Adrianna Tan

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     In case you think those places are cheaper for any reason: friends from those places visit me in San Francisco, look at million dollar apartments and get excited at how ‘cheap’ they are

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     Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 31-Mar-2025 06:07:38 JST Adrianna Tan

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     • tuban_muzuru

     @tuban_muzuru I grew up in mega cities, I love them passionately. Very much depends on who you are. We don’t have this country / burby vision of an ideal life outside of N America

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     tuban_muzuru (tuban_muzuru@ohai.social)'s status on Monday, 31-Mar-2025 06:07:39 JST tuban_muzuru

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     @skinnylatte

     I've lived in a blur of cities - they all blend together now. I loved them all, especially the Chicago, Old Town, Lincoln Park area.

     Returned two years ago - nobody I knew was left.

     "When I consider everything that grows
     Holds in perfection but a little moment,
     That this huge stage presenteth nought but shows...

     I told my kids, everyone ought to spend a few years in the Big City - the clubs, the art, the hustle and bustle. Don't raise kids there, though

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     Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 31-Mar-2025 06:43:48 JST Adrianna Tan

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     • tuban_muzuru

     @tuban_muzuru I like the diversity and din of mega cities, primarily those with good transit. Children who are safe in cities with good transit have far more independence. I was taking the public bus on my own since the age of 7, and cannot imagine being confined by my parents’ cars and schedules. Some cities (like SF, Portland, Seattle) are really close to and easy to access for nature. Pros and cons. Having a balanced life is important. Whatever it is people from small towns feel about being claustrophobic in big cities, I have the opposite.

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     tuban_muzuru (tuban_muzuru@ohai.social)'s status on Monday, 31-Mar-2025 06:43:50 JST tuban_muzuru

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     @skinnylatte

     I'd have to say Osaka is the city I know best in Japan. It's a livable city, Tokyo at half the price. I could live in Osaka.

     But rural Japan is totally different - but I'd prefer to raise my kids with their feet in the dirt and not on concrete..

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     scott f (scott@carfree.city)'s status on Monday, 31-Mar-2025 11:33:06 JST scott f

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     @skinnylatte Ouch.

     You'd said this about Singapore... Sydney and HK too?

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     Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 31-Mar-2025 11:33:06 JST Adrianna Tan

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     • scott f

     @scott same in all

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     Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 31-Mar-2025 11:41:57 JST Adrianna Tan

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     • scott f

     @scott HK has some of the highest property prices in the *world*

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     Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 31-Mar-2025 11:51:19 JST Adrianna Tan

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     @scott I’ve been in US$2.5M apartments in Hong Kong. They’re tiny.

     Property speculation and home ownership is the great Chinese desire and primary financial instrument. Even in communist China.

     HK prices coming down a bit now due to state of economy (many businesses left HK for Singapore due to Chinese controls). This might also be why people from HK go to London and Vancouver and find property great and super affordable.

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     scott f (scott@carfree.city)'s status on Monday, 31-Mar-2025 11:51:20 JST scott f

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     @skinnylatte I guess I pictured Hong Kong as being like Vancouver: less affordable than SF in the sense median incomes are lower, but not more expensive in absolute terms