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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 27-Mar-2025 16:01:29 JST 翠星石
@KaiserKitty @navi What are you even on about?
It would be incredibly difficult to unGPLv2-only the kernel, Linux.
The proprietary masters want to eliminate software freedom badly and therefore want to eliminate GNU.
Although they aren't happy that Linux is GPLv2-only, they are quite placated how Linux is proprietary software and infringes its own license.-
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 28-Mar-2025 13:07:23 JST 翠星石
@sendpaws @KaiserKitty @navi So far Fuchsia is a joke, as there's no GNU, let alone a kernel as functional as Linux. -
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Pawslut420 (sendpaws@mitra.pawslut.party)'s status on Friday, 28-Mar-2025 13:07:24 JST Pawslut420
@Suiseiseki @KaiserKitty @navi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuchsia_(operating_system)
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 28-Mar-2025 13:19:31 JST 翠星石
@lispi314 @KaiserKitty @sendpaws @navi GNU should continue destroying Fuchsia, no matter how hard google tries to get it to take people's freedom. In conversation permalink -
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LisPi (lispi314@udongein.xyz)'s status on Friday, 28-Mar-2025 13:19:32 JST LisPi
@Suiseiseki @navi @sendpaws @KaiserKitty There's no need for POSIX obsession to make a system interesting or useful.
Fuchsia has a lot of problems, but they're entirely orthogonal to UNIX & POSIX.
Or do you mean that GNU should make a new set of tools for Fuchsia, hopefully with no POSIX/UNIX mental pollution?In conversation permalink -
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 28-Mar-2025 13:20:59 JST 翠星石
@lispi314 @KaiserKitty @navi @sendpaws Also, GNU is not POSIX.
GNU treats the good ideas of POSIX as a recommendation and implements them and ignores the bad ideas.
Functionality from GNU goes into POSIX, not the other way round.In conversation permalink -
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 28-Mar-2025 13:27:20 JST 翠星石
@lispi314 @KaiserKitty @sendpaws @navi There is nothing problematic about designing an OS based on a modular design.
The technical drawbacks of old Unix was unreliability (many bugs and crashes), arbitrary limitations on input sizes and bad performance, which GNU does not suffer from.In conversation permalink -
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LisPi (lispi314@udongein.xyz)'s status on Friday, 28-Mar-2025 13:27:22 JST LisPi
@navi @sendpaws @Suiseiseki @KaiserKitty GNU is not UNIX (nor POSIX), but it is problematically UNIX-influenced.
Fuchsia meanwhile is a corposcum user-abusing project that not only spoils its own potential but inexplicably sabotages its own foundations with incomprehensible technical choices.In conversation permalink -
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 28-Mar-2025 14:18:59 JST 翠星石
@sendpaws You are comparing a kernel to complete OS's. In conversation permalink -
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Pawslut420 (sendpaws@mitra.pawslut.party)'s status on Friday, 28-Mar-2025 14:19:00 JST Pawslut420
@lispi314 @KaiserKitty @Suiseiseki @navi the point here is that corposhits would replace the Linux kernel if they could get away with it and it wasn't more mature.
I mean look at minix and the Intel me, or bsd and apple/sony
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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 28-Mar-2025 14:32:18 JST 翠星石
@sendpaws @KaiserKitty @navi @lispi314 That was a port of Linux to be a Mach module, but that was only the kernel part - the rest of the OS appears to have also used parts of BSDs and I figure some GNU packages as well (which of course wikipedia would not mention). In conversation permalink -
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Pawslut420 (sendpaws@mitra.pawslut.party)'s status on Friday, 28-Mar-2025 14:32:19 JST Pawslut420
@lispi314 @KaiserKitty @Suiseiseki @navi the only two mach oses used bsd: NeXTSTEP/Darwin and OSF/1/Digital UNIX/Tru64.
There were also weird Linux and Unix ports like this, including mklinux.
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LisPi (lispi314@udongein.xyz)'s status on Friday, 28-Mar-2025 14:32:20 JST LisPi
@sendpaws @navi @Suiseiseki @KaiserKitty GNU Hurd could potentially be used to make something reasonable, though it'd need a lot of work and some of its design (which is noted by the project members themselves) is non-ideal. In conversation permalink
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