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   Neal Gompa (ニール・ゴンパ) :fedora: (conan_kudo@fosstodon.org)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Mar-2025 08:30:05 JST Neal Gompa (ニール・ゴンパ) :fedora:

   🌶️ take: the phrase "cloud native" needs to just die in a fire. It's so meaningless and it's used as a gatekeeping device these days.

   I work on tools that make things that people consider "cloud native" or "container native" but apparently that's not enough to be considered either. 💢

   And because of that, things are more difficult than they need to be.

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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Mar-2025 08:37:54 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • James Just James
     @Conan_Kudo @purpleidea One I've seen use it is Oracle (to describe Solaris 11…) which I'd argue is a real cloud provider. ^^
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     Neal Gompa (ニール・ゴンパ) :fedora: (conan_kudo@fosstodon.org)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Mar-2025 08:37:55 JST Neal Gompa (ニール・ゴンパ) :fedora:

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     • James Just James

     @purpleidea Hilariously, pretty much none of the real cloud providers use the phrase at all. Because it's stupid.

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     James Just James (purpleidea@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Mar-2025 08:37:56 JST James Just James

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     @Conan_Kudo Not even a hot take, "cloud native" is just marketing lingo for proprietary hosting services.

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     James Just James (purpleidea@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Mar-2025 08:40:54 JST James Just James

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

     @lanodan @Conan_Kudo As long as nobody claims Microsoft is a "real cloud provider" then I'll accept any definitions.

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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Mar-2025 08:40:54 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • James Just James
     @purpleidea @Conan_Kudo Well, I'd accept Azure as a "real *bad* cloud provider" :D