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   Matthew Lyon (mattly@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 24-Mar-2025 06:13:33 JST Matthew Lyon

   It's open source, you can trust it

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     Matthew Lyon (mattly@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 24-Mar-2025 06:15:45 JST Matthew Lyon

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     well that's a way to answer a question without answering a question https://docs.syncthing.net/users/faq.html#why-does-syncthing-connect-to-this-unknown-suspicious-address

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     Matthew Lyon (mattly@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 24-Mar-2025 06:20:00 JST Matthew Lyon

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     so it turns out this open source dropbox-style thing has "relaying" on by default; it doesn't ask you, and instead assumes it's ok by you to just connect to random ips without asking first

     I don't care that they "can't see my data", the assumption is a breach of trust

     Of course, it took hunting down some forum thread to understand what was going on

     open source projects really need to take this sort of user experience more seriously

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     Matthew Lyon (mattly@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 24-Mar-2025 06:21:16 JST Matthew Lyon

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     anyway guess who has two thumbs and a NAS?

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     Matthew Lyon (mattly@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 24-Mar-2025 06:23:46 JST Matthew Lyon

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     • Jan Lehnardt :couchdb:

     @janl I found the setting to turn relaying off and it's _still_ trying to connect to dozens of randos

     everyone in the self-hosting space _raves_ about this program, but I'm ten minutes in and done with it

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     Jan Lehnardt :couchdb: (janl@narrativ.es)'s status on Monday, 24-Mar-2025 06:23:47 JST Jan Lehnardt :couchdb:

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     @mattly wtf

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     Matthew Lyon (mattly@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 24-Mar-2025 06:39:45 JST Matthew Lyon

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     the most popular third-party iPhone app for working with this has a process for setting up your Certificate Authority, and, you know, there's a point at which one says "fuck it I'll hand my data over to a private company who'll probably exploit me despite the fact that I'm paying them"

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     Matthew Lyon (mattly@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 24-Mar-2025 07:02:05 JST Matthew Lyon

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     the general consensus seems to be: Phones aren't reliably connected, therefore phones can't be truly peer-to-peer devices, therefore you shouldn't try to sync files with phones

     I really need to get around to writing my "an interface is an ideology" essay

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     Jan <3 (janvhs@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 24-Mar-2025 21:47:48 JST Jan <3

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     @mattly how did you get the access list? Didn’t know macOS has this feature! Oh and thanks for taking the bullet… guess that’s one option less to evaluate

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     Matthew Lyon (mattly@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 24-Mar-2025 23:53:28 JST Matthew Lyon

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     • Jan Lehnardt :couchdb:

     @janl yes it’s Little Snitch

     If you want to save the money, BlockBlock by Patrick Wardle https://objective-see.org does the same thing with an uglier UI and it’s free; I support his Patreon anyway because he’s got so many great little utilities

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     Jan Lehnardt :couchdb: (janl@narrativ.es)'s status on Monday, 24-Mar-2025 23:53:29 JST Jan Lehnardt :couchdb:

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     • Jan <3

     @janvhs @mattly that’s probably little snitch

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     Matthew Lyon (mattly@hachyderm.io)'s status on Monday, 24-Mar-2025 23:58:36 JST Matthew Lyon

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     • Jan Lehnardt :couchdb:
     • Jan <3

     @janl @janvhs oh thanks I’m using the web client and it’s default is to over type other parties

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     Jan Lehnardt :couchdb: (janl@narrativ.es)'s status on Monday, 24-Mar-2025 23:58:37 JST Jan Lehnardt :couchdb:

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     • Jan <3

     @mattly cc @janvhs

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     Matthew Lyon (mattly@hachyderm.io)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Mar-2025 01:33:51 JST Matthew Lyon

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     • duncanbeevers

     @duncanbeevers perhaps, but even so I don’t think they’re very up front about the design choice or those trade offs. Nothing from the sun thing homepage indicates to me it’s a p2p program, and if it had I would have known immediately it wasn’t what I wanted

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     duncanbeevers (duncanbeevers@fosstodon.org)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Mar-2025 01:33:52 JST duncanbeevers

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     @mattly I think these developers have made some trade-offs in a tricky space, opting for a solution which strikes a balance between usefulness, impedance, and privacy.

     No matter where they end up in the final solution space, there will be people who say "WTF"

     I think they've done a pretty good job shipping something that works as-expected for most people while providing documentation for the curious and knobs for the dissatisfied.

     Sorry you got this surprise! I hope it didn't ruin your day.

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     Matthew Lyon (mattly@hachyderm.io)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Mar-2025 01:58:27 JST Matthew Lyon

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     • Anthropy :verified_dragon:

     @anthropy yes I understand that now. Their homepage is not forthright about this

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     Anthropy :verified_dragon: (anthropy@mastodon.derg.nz)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Mar-2025 01:58:29 JST Anthropy :verified_dragon:

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     @mattly it's based on the same concepts as (trackerless) Torrents. AFAIK it uses a DHT (Distributed Hash Table) to find and connect to other nodes you own, and uses this for "UDP hole punching", which allows it to communicate with other nodes you own after the connection has been set up. This works by having every node participate in this DHT, just like with Torrent clients. I guess in addition they might also have relays.

     I get it feels weird though, I also prefer just self hosting things.